So this Liberal says to me...

[Scutter01]

I don't understand, you're not going to debate on these points, but the liberal is an idiot for his Ayers comments?

Please clarify, that's pretty hypocritical.

You know this thread died 14 months ago, right?

 

[duke]

sorry, i didn't see that. I stumbled across it from the links at the bottom of the 'took a liberal to the reange thread'

 

[Scutter01]

sorry, i didn't see that. I stumbled across it from the links at the bottom of the 'took a liberal to the reange thread'

Oh, I have no problem reviving a dead thread. It's just that you're unlikely to receive a coherent answer to your question.

 

[PatMcGroyne]

It does seem that this thread -- in the political climate of today -- needed to be resuscitated. I say 'Go For It!' Here is a long note from a Navy man, posted on IN. Defenders Of Liberty: [[[attn MODS: it is at your discretion, as always, to expurgate any false statements]]] After reading this, I ask: "What have you done for the advancement of Liberty this year?" I don't really care, as long as it is YOUR BEST!
The letter: We lived in California during the winters of 2007 and 2008. We
became addicted to Fox News and watched O'Reilly and Hannity
and Colmes every night. When we got back home, we upgraded our
cable to get Fox. I watched the Presidential campaign very
closely. Initially because I thought the Democrats would
nominate Hillary Clinton and then in astonishment when they
chose an even more hard-left candidate. All of last year I
told everyone I could that Obama was not a Democrat, he was a
Marxist. He is far to the left of any European leader and even
our far left party, the NDP.

I read Saul Alinsky when I was in the University. I studied
him and his writing carefully. When Bill Ayers and his idiot
wife were bombing and killing people at random in the Weather
Underground. Weather Underground and the Black Panthers were
closely allied. I read David Horowitz's account of changing
from a Marxist to a conservative after seeing that the
government was afraid to prosecute members of the Panthers for
murdering his personal assistant. He suddenly understood the
evil that Marxism really was.

After the student radicals failed in creating a Marxist
revolution in the United States by violent means, they
embraced Alinsky. You would be wise to read "Rules for
Radicals" because it outlines how Hillary and Obama planned to
get into power, and what they intended to do when they got it.

Socialism is not the correct descriptor for what Obama and the
Democrats are doing. They are going to be much more far
reaching than anything Sweden has ever been able to do. Obama
is following Alinsky's plans, those set out in "Rules for
Radicals" and his other writing. The Democrats are attempting
to create one party rule in the U.S. and in achieving that,
will create crisis after crisis by their own actions and use
those crisis to nationalize the means of production in the
U.S. You are in the middle of a communist revolution and few
in the U..S. can actually see it for what it truly is.

The U.S. is now on the path of financial destruction. The
Constitution has been shredded and individual human rights are
being trampled. In less than 8 months. Obama has used a
recession to take over the two largest industries in the U.S.
He will debase the Dollar and is on the road to creating an
incredible energy shortage that will allow him and Congress to
take over the energy industry.

But by and large I think that by the 2010 elections, the
Democrats will have gerrymandered electoral districts to the
point that it will be impossible for them to lose control of
both houses of Congress. The incredible increase in the money
supply is going to create Zimbabwe and Venezuela style
inflation, and with it, controls on the currency and the
amount of money that can be taken out of the country.

I love America , I cannot believe how the ignorance of the
American public has created a situation where by they are
going to lose their Republic and slip into an age of
repression and tyranny.

I may be nuts, but so far I have been 100% in my predictions
of what Obama was going to do, because I merely had to look at
"Rules for Radicals" to see what was coming next.

I read Glenn Beck's book, "Common Sense" and in it re-read
Thomas Paine's pamphlet with the same name. I recommend the book.

When the storm finally hits (and it will), those of you who
supported the Obama administration will be affected as well.
It won't just be us gun owners or Flat-Taxers, or Pro-Lifers
that get hit. You'll be right there next to us.

You all thought the Conservatives were nut cases. You know,
all of us who believe in God, small government, the Second
Amendment, etc. You thought you could just go back to sleep
after the election was over. In your world, America will
continue as before. You'll still have the same rights, the
same nice house, the same big screen television. After all,
your high school football team won and the other team lost "go
team"! Even if you have bothered to look up from the daily
grind since Nov 4th, you dismissed everything that has
occurred as "politics as usual"the same old stuff.

In the end, it'll all be OK won't it? Not this time.

There are a growing number of citizens in the US that are
ready to fight to shut down the government's grab of personal
freedom, it's blatant abuse of the constitution, and it's
attempt to replace the American way of life with socialism.
You have to listen carefully to hear them, but they are there.
I won't start that fight, but when it goes down I will join it.

As for you, why, you'll be shocked because you didn't see it
coming. And eventually you'll be saddened when you see that we
have truly lost the way of life with which you grew up. You'll
be saddened that your children and grandchildren live in a
socialist, government-controlled gulag where their every
movement from cradle to grave is tracked by the government.
But most of all, you'll be saddened by the death of friends
and relatives who are brave enough to fight and die for
something they believe in.

You know, McCain wasn't much of a candidate. I'll give you
that. He was the lesser of two evils for most of us. I don't
blame you for not voting for him since, at the time, you
didn't know what we all know now.. But at least John McCain
was an American. He was a supporter of the American way of
life and he understood that you can't negotiate with
terrorists. He understood and appreciated the sacrifice made
by my father and other members of the Greatest Generation.

Mark my words friends. All across America groups are forming.
They are forming out of anger and out of desperation at the
thought of losing America . They're not militia groups,
terrorists as the Department of Homeland security would have
you believe; they are Americans, loyal to the constitution.
They are mothers and fathers and grandparents. They belong to
groups like the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps, the Peaceful
Resistance, the Constitution Party, the Young Conservatives,
the 9/12 Project, and Grassfire.. Right now they are
fragmented, each focused on their own cause.. But sometime in
the next two years, our government is going to do something
really stupid and these groups will come together. Watch for
it, wait for it's get ready. It will happen.

When that event happens, whatever "it" is, our great country
is going to plunge into chaos for a while. I pray to God that
we make it through that time and emerge a stronger, smarter
country.