Who said that?
Uh...
Finnegan did. An hour ago.
You just quoted him saying it?
Who said that?
Nah, he was asking finnegan who said "I can't be inconvenienced by all this"Uh...
Finnegan did. An hour ago.
You just quoted him saying it?
The cloud of aerosolized particles you are breathing as you move through the store is s much bigger threat. Every [STRIKE]cough or breath[/STRIKE] FART from someone infected creates a [STRIKE]wafting[/STRIKE] ODOROUS cloud that trails behind them and beside them.
The contamination on the packaging is stationary and can be cleaned easily before you put it in cupboard or fridge. The cloud of aerosolized particles you are breathing as you move through the store is s much bigger threat. Every cough or breath from someone infected creates a wafting cloud that trails behind them and beside them. If you dont want to change your ways and do pickup, at least wear a mask. This idea that one can't be inconvenienced by all of this is straight up sociopathic.
The Chinese Communist Party, the democrats, the media, and social media have made Americans afraid to even breathe. The second round of the American Revolutionary War will be postponed until we can breathe...
I am going by the American Society of Anesthesiologists recommendations that every Covid positive person that is getting an aerosolyzing procedure (or as we would know it, breathing or coughing) be treated as airborne, not the CDC and Chinese influenced WHO that said we don't need masks. Again, I've had 80 plus coworkers test positive because we followed the CDC guidelines instead of the ASA. My nephew nearly died of this, I have one coworker who lost both uncles, another his brother. My father has a spot on his lung and my mother has COPD. I don't give a damn about politics in this. People who do not wear masks in public yet carry a gun claiming to protect anyone but themselves are hypocrites; not to mention endangering their families and other's families. I'm not asking to stay home or not go to church or anything like that, but this spit on the ground "this aint ****" attitude is sociopathic in its callousness. It directly endangers those around you, your families, myself, and my coworkers when we have to treat you.
I don't intend to go into any stores for the next couple of weeks, unless absolutely necessary. I agree with the notion that you are more likely to catch this virus through the air than to get it from touching a contaminated object. Objects can be decontaminated or set aside until the virus is no longer viable, depending on the item. As long as you don't touch your face before sanitizing your hands, you should be ok. No way to decontaminate the air the store. A mask is only of limited use, air always gets in around the edges. The eyes are also susceptible to airborne transmission. I don't see anybody out there wearing goggles.
See Ingomike's post above since my family, myself, his neighbors, and my coworkers are acceptable casualities so he can shop for meat without a mask. People who will not wear a mask when they go into public spaces because freedom? I am not advocating locking everything down, cancelling church, etc. Wearing a mask protects your community from YOU if you are asymptomatic positive. My mask protects you, your mask protects me.finnegan, I'm sorry for your losses.
Still don't know who you are trying to call a sociopath though?
See Ingomike's post above since my family, myself, his neighbors, and my coworkers are acceptable casualities so he can shop for meat without a mask. People who will not wear a mask when they go into public spaces because freedom? I am not advocating locking everything down, cancelling church, etc. Wearing a mask protects your community from YOU if you are asymptomatic positive. My mask protects you, your mask protects me.
Anyway, venting over. Sorry for derailing the thread.
Yeah man, I'm just frustrated is all and lost my cool, for which I apologize. Asking people to voluntarily wear masks in public is not the same thing as government enforced lockdowns, but those that don't as some sort of middle finger to their governor, well I've already said my piece about that. Its a shield to protect the community from this thing that might be hiding inside you. That's all.
It may not be politically correct but unless it’s a condition of employment or a condition for services being rendered or unless I’m entering a room/home/building with someone of elevated risk, I’m not going to wear a mask. This bug is never going away. Even if they come up with a vaccine tomorrow, it’s not going away. And we’re talking a year, probably, best case, that a vaccine will be available. And even vaccines will not provide us 100% protection. This means if one believes wearing a mask is necessary, good manners, or whatever as a precaution for not spreading the virus you don’t know you might have, you’ll have to do it forever...everyday...for the rest of your life. If you think it’s right, more power to you.
Thank you. Sorry for blowing my top. I personally favor an approach where we get the people currently out there, healthcare and essential workers, tested first to find the asymptomatic positives out of the cycle of infection. Once that's done, we can ease up and its safer for those that have been following social distancing/ stay at home to go back out with less risk of spreading the infection. The key is getting it to a managable state. I've heard too many horror stories from CRNAs that I've worked with that volunteered in New York. One lasted 3 days. The other two are now in a cabin in the woods for three weeks self isolating. One described it as "total pandemonium". Their consensus was that they couldn't help anybody. This was at the peak of the outbreak. I don't want that to happen here, or anywhere. We can do this if we do it smart.I just want to say, thank you for what you do for those that need it bad, and thank for your insight. All opinions are valuable. I have always believed that good ideas come from the forge of discussion...
Something’s up with the Walmart curb-side pick up thing. The last couple of times my wife has placed an order, they’ve come back with various things not available or out of stock or however they worded it. But, when my wife went in to check, there was “plenty” of those out of stock items there on the shelves.