I can see Louisville from my house.........Ok, it's a few miles away... I was born and raised there, the south end of Jefferson county, red neck area, we had guns, criminals knew it... I went to the last National Gun Day there, pocket carried my loaded p32, (I don't trust some wanna be gangbanger trying to hold up people with unloaded guns for sale or trade) Just my paranoia, maybe. Did see a young man unloading a magazine from a gun he had for sale, or trade, at the gun check area.....