I would volunteer for the BuSabFrank.. Frank is that you?
I would volunteer for the BuSabFrank.. Frank is that you?
I self-sorted my family and me (kicking and screaming in my kids' case) back to Indiana from being ILL for 25 years a decade ago. The only lefty moved to SoCal, so ILL became effectively more blue by subtraction, and Indiana gained 3 elephants.I agree. It’s happening now. People are self-sorting. People are fleeing from California to redder states. When I heard Californians were moving to FL, I thought, oh ****. They’re gonna turn Florida blue. That obviously didn’t happen. I think the people who are leaving are mostly right leaning independents and Republicans who have realized they’ve lost the battle in the bat **** crazy states.
I don’t think we’re ready to talk about secession of states. Yet.
Does the constitution demand each and every state must stay under the threat of war should they try to secede? I agree with you fully re: questions and complications galore. But I don't see any violence in simply walking away. I can't imagine Rhode Island operating as a country, but hey, if they wanna try...Where is the provisions in the constitution that say how secession would work? What are the responsibilities of the seceding state to the United states? What would be done with federal resources that exist within the state’s territory? How would disputes be resolved? That this information is conspicuously missing from the constitution, should we believe that these leaders, who supposedly believe ever state has a right to secede simply overlooked such an important transaction as separating from the union?
Is it only unfounded folklore or did Texas reserve the right to legally leave the union?Both the state and federal government would have to pass laws to allow a state to leave, but yes- it can be done without violence....but it cannot legally be done unilaterally.
Myth.Is it only unfounded folklore or did Texas reserve the right to legally leave the union?
As to the overall discussion of secession, I'd prefer to either a) effectively neuter the fed's strangle hold over the states and consequently individual citizens, or b) effectively neuter the fed's strangle hold over the states while the states realign according to their own political will - see eastern Oregon join Idaho and similar, or c) completely and utterly obliterate the current oppressive fed and replace it with a minimalist fed focused solely on security. Some states kinda suck. Some states really suck. But without a doubt the biggest, most oppressive, unfair force, dividing us and sucking the spirit out of the American people is the federal government.
I think ti's true that secession of the heart is already under way. People can't agree on how to order society. The two sides are so far apart that it does not look to me like reconciliation is even possible. But I think for TPTB, it's not an option. That either one side or the other will impose it's will on the other.
I will simply note some of the examples the author points to would indicate that for many a secession of the heart is already underway.
Everyone seems to want to kill everyone they disagree with. Unfortunately, I feel you're right, but I hope not. Unless we can figure something out we're headed for another civil war and nobody will be the winner. Just imagine what happens when the UN, China, Russia and everyone else sees that the USA is a failed nation and comes to pick over the bones.I think ti's true that secession of the heart is already under way. People can't agree on how to order society. The two sides are so far apart that it does not look to me like reconciliation is even possible. But I think for TPTB, it's not an option. That either one side or the other will impose it's will on the other.
I kinda think the civil war is under way. It's not a war between regions. It's a war between cultural norms. It's been fought on social media primarily. And it's starting to get bloody. Crazy trans person shoots 9 year olds, for **** sake. Presumably because she doesn't like the laws. And one side is backing that play. How long before there are more?Everyone seems to want to kill everyone they disagree with. Unfortunately, I feel you're right, but I hope not. Unless we can figure something out we're headed for another civil war and nobody will be the winner. Just imagine what happens when the UN, China, Russia and everyone else sees that the USA is a failed nation and comes to pick over the bones.
I'd agree on it being more in the area of "cold." How long before more is up for debate. Whoever "wins" will be invited to the picnic of what I initially responded with. In my opinion, anyways. I can think of another thing that makes me queesy. China "reclaiming" Taiwan and unifying a divided USA into WW3. ****, too much internet for today.I kinda think the civil war is under way. It's not a war between regions. It's a war between cultural norms. It's been fought on social media primarily. And it's starting to get bloody. Crazy trans person shoots 9 year olds, for **** sake. Presumably because she doesn't like the laws. And one side is backing that play. How long before there are more?