Let’s go crazy…Electric word, never. It means forever and that's a mighty long time
Let’s go crazy…Electric word, never. It means forever and that's a mighty long time
Unless the DoD goes under in the next 4 1/2 years, my confidence level is high.It's great work, if you cangetkeep it.
From what I have seen at my office, most people do. Very few voluntarily go into the office.I think we have determined that introvert computer types like working from home…
I get what you are saying. I actually agree to some extent that remote workers do need to be flexible, and make sure they are being professional, etc.Production is the only thing that will matter with remote vs on site workers. Especially as we go through this recession, production in this inflation riddled market will be the winner.
Remote workers will be competing with contractors, both domestic and foriegn. As long as production can stay at or above what others can do for the same money, they should be good. All the while, keeping in mind that loyalites between employer and employee fade with no face to face. This brings it back to the numbers.
Is the remote worker's benefits and insurance worth the cost vs a contractor who covers that cost on their own, working the job for a set dollar figure?
One of the biggest things a remote worker could do, short of producing something that cannot be done by any other, is to network to other remote workers the downside of the bragging about completing their workday in a couple of hours, while wearing only their skivies. That's the kind of knowlege that makes the customer wonder what they are paying for when they purchase the end product.
There is no graceful way to say this to my remote working friends, (who I wish the best for,) other than be blunt...
The overall tone of this thread has been that the remote worker likes working remotely and hell or high water won't be going back to the office. That is not much of a sale to an employer, whose whole job is the bottom line. That's the other side of remote working that is not as apparent to those in their skivies. The hidden (unpaid) side of your remote job is selling your employer that your services cannot be beat by in house or contract work.
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The problem with this argument is that most office work already has to compete with contractors and overseas/outsourced employees. Changing the place where the work is done from the office to the remote office doesn't seriously change that equation. Contrast those stories of the remote worker getting their workday done in a couple hours with the YouTube and TikTok videos of office employees recording videos of their workdays where they're spending most of the time goofing off, eating company provided snacks, napping and getting only a couple hours of actual work done.Production is the only thing that will matter with remote vs on site workers. Especially as we go through this recession, production in this inflation riddled market will be the winner.
Remote workers will be competing with contractors, both domestic and foriegn. As long as production can stay at or above what others can do for the same money, they should be good. All the while, keeping in mind that loyalites between employer and employee fade with no face to face. This brings it back to the numbers.
Is the remote worker's benefits and insurance worth the cost vs a contractor who covers that cost on their own, working the job for a set dollar figure?
One of the biggest things a remote worker could do, short of producing something that cannot be done by any other, is to network to other remote workers the downside of the bragging about completing their workday in a couple of hours, while wearing only their skivies. That's the kind of knowlege that makes the customer wonder what they are paying for when they purchase the end product.
There is no graceful way to say this to my remote working friends, (who I wish the best for,) other than be blunt...
The overall tone of this thread has been that the remote worker likes working remotely and hell or high water won't be going back to the office. That is not much of a sale to an employer, whose whole job is the bottom line. That's the other side of remote working that is not as apparent to those in their skivies. The hidden (unpaid) side of your remote job is selling your employer that your services cannot be beat by in house or contract work.
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I get what you are saying. I actually agree to some extent that remote workers do need to be flexible, and make sure they are being professional, etc.
That said, I've worked for years with the lowest cost outsourcers, etc from both sides (as a direct customer of theirs as well as from a partner/vendor aspect). Not all the time, but in the largest part of my experience, there is a discernible difference between lowest cost, outsourced resources and full time employees (FTEs), even if the FTE is working remotely as well.
For the majority of cases, I see an ownership with FTEs that I don't see with lowest cost offshored contractors. Now that said, it's not 100% and I have seen some great offshored contract resources, and I've seen some bad FTEs.
To your point, I also see companies that are taking to global, remote working actual FTEs and not just sticking to traditional models of US based FTEs and offshored contractors.
Not to forget that some companies are at the mercy of decisions other than management. Be it stockholders or the customer, if weak numbers prevail, changes will have to be made. Business is not like socialism, there is not an endless supply of other people's money. If the incoming dollars go down, so will have to the labor costs.
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The problem with this argument is...
I'm not making an argument, my freind. I'm trying to get accross how business works.
Please don't take my word for it, (as if you would.) Investigate this yourself. Find out what it takes to keep a company above water, in the modern market.
This is not personal. This is business.
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I'm not exactly new to the business world. I understand very well how business works. ...
...Also not trying to argue as much as just state a fact...
Better jump ship now and find a cubicle somewhere before it's too late.Anyway, by your logic I'm already "screwed" anyway, because it's been proven to my employer and many others, that my position (as well as most of InfoSec) can be done remotely. I might as well just give up my 6 figure job now...
No…Am I the only one who wants a strict demarcation between my work life and home life and to keep my work life out of the home as much as possible?