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    Seriously?

    Can you keep a loaded rifle in your car?

    If you have an LTCH, can you keep a loaded rifle in your car?

    Is it legal to have a loaded rifle in your car?
     

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    If you have an LTCH (which really doesn't pertain to long guns), is it legal to leave a rifle in your car? Can you have it loaded?
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Seriously?

    Can you keep a loaded rifle in your car?

    If you have an LTCH, can you keep a loaded rifle in your car?

    Is it legal to have a loaded rifle in your car?

    Dude, banging my head on counsel table all morning over heroin addicts, fraudsters and prosecutors with nothing to do but jerk with me. Come back to the office that is on fire, employee drama and getting the 2013 taxes ready for the accountant. Mr. Wizard, send me home.

    1. Indiana has no statute as to carrying a rifle in one's car where one is not in a prohibited area--school property, inter alia.

    2. One's possession of a valid LTCH is not determinative of legality of carrying a long gun. Indiana simply has no statute on carrying long guns, just handguns.

    3. Remember, Jeremy's Silly Shotgun Doctrine still applies, i.e. a silly pistol grip only shotgun is a handgun in Indiana.

    4. It is legal to have a loaded rifle in your car, as long as you are not in a prohibited area. However, remember, inertia firing pins are common and having one in the pipe may not be in your best interests. "Cruiser ready" may be preferred.

    Can a rifle, that's in your car be loaded?

    Exclusive of hunting, yes?

    Sure, load it up, no statute, but remember real world physics may control.
     

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    Dude, banging my head on counsel table all morning over heroin addicts, fraudsters and prosecutors with nothing to do but jerk with me. Come back to the office that is on fire, employee drama and getting the 2013 taxes ready for the accountant. Mr. Wizard, send me home.

    1. Indiana has no statute as to carrying a rifle in one's car where one is not in a prohibited area--school property, inter alia.

    2. One's possession of a valid LTCH is not determinative of legality of carrying a long gun. Indiana simply has no statute on carrying long guns, just handguns.

    3. Remember, Jeremy's Silly Shotgun Doctrine still applies, i.e. a silly pistol grip only shotgun is a handgun in Indiana.

    4. It is legal to have a loaded rifle in your car, as long as you are not in a prohibited area. However, remember, inertia firing pins are common and having one in the pipe may not be in your best interests. "Cruiser ready" may be preferred.



    Exclusive of hunting, yes?

    Sure, load it up, no statute, but remember real world physics may control.

    What about the within a 1000ft of a school someone mentioned?
     

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    What about the within a 1000ft of a school someone mentioned?

    Quoted below for Kirk since he's had a bad day and I'd really like to see his response. (not too cryptic if you don't mind Kirk :))

    Driving around with a rifle is technicly illegal if you cross within 1000 feet of a school...

    Under the Federal Gun Free School Zone Act of 1994 in order to be within 1000 ft of a school while in possession of a firearm, you must be licenced by the state the zone is in to carry the firearm when in the zone. This presents a problem for residents and travellers in states like Indiana which only licences handguns. Under the letter of the Federal law, it is illegal to enter a school zone with a long gun in Indiana, LTCH or not, unless it is unloaded and locked in a case as required by the FGFSZAo1994.

    That said the chances of being caught up in this is slim unless you break any other major law that attracts the attention of the Feds, but the law says what it says.
     

    K_W

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    What about the within a 1000ft of a school someone mentioned?

    Until...

    #1. God forbid, Indiana expands the LTCH statutes (which is already unconstitutional under both Indiana and US constitution) to include all firearms... This goes for any state with handgun only licences, or no licencing at all (constitutional carry states)

    OR

    #2. the 1000 ft zone is eliminated...

    ...possessing a long gun, that is not unloaded and locked in a case, in Indiana or any state for which you are not "LICENSED" by that state to carry/transport it while within 1000 ft of a school, except on private property, you could be charged with a Federal Felony if they discovered you and cared to make an issue of it.

    As of yet there are only a handful of cases under the Gun Free Zone law and most of those were add-on charges.
     
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    Seriously?

    Can you keep a loaded rifle in your car?

    If you have an LTCH, can you keep a loaded rifle in your car?

    Is it legal to have a loaded rifle in your car?

    Can a rifle, that's in your car be loaded?

    Is it legal to have ammunition inserted in your rifle if your rifle is in your car?

    If you have an LTCH (which really doesn't pertain to long guns), is it legal to leave a rifle in your car? Can you have it loaded?

    But what if you drive a truck?
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Don't confuse Kirk!

    A couple of People's Pilsners did the trick.

    What about the within a 1000ft of a school someone mentioned?

    What about it? (q) provides several (7 IIRC) exemptions to the 1000' rule which is a sticking point as Indiana requires no license to carry a long gun thus the exemptions may not arguably apply to a long gun carrier.
     

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    A couple of People's Pilsners did the trick.



    What about it? (q) provides several (7 IIRC) exemptions to the 1000' rule which is a sticking point as Indiana requires no license to carry a long gun thus the exemptions may not arguably apply to a long gun carrier.

    When we get all the branches back, we need to inundate our reps with calls and letters to remove the 1000 ft rule...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun-Free_School_Zones_Act_of_1990

    then in time the whole thing, as it affects everything from simple long gun carry in a car passing a school to LTCH reciprocity.

    State reciprocity agreements

    Although the Federal GFSZA does provide an exception for an individual licensed to carry a firearm, this exception only applies in the State that physically issued the permit.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][11][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP][SUP][15][/SUP] All fifty States have provisions to issue concealed carry permits to citizens.[SUP][16][/SUP] Most of these States also enter into reciprocity agreements with other States where each State agrees to recognize the other's concealed carry permits.[SUP][16][/SUP] Because the Federal GFSZA requires the permit be issued by the State which the school zone is in,[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] it is difficult for a permit holder to travel outside their State of issuance to a reciprocating State without violating the Federal GFSZA.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][11][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP][SUP][15][/SUP]
     
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    Kirk Freeman

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    When we get all the branches back, we need to inundate our reps with calls and letters to remove the 1000 ft rule.

    Ron Paul introduced a bill a few years ago, but no action since.

    There is a WHOLE BUNCH of pruning that we need to do to United States Code.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Here are the exemptions under 18 USC §922(q):

    (B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm— (i) on private property not part of school grounds;
    (ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;
    (iii) that is— (I) not loaded; and
    (II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;

    (iv) by an individual for use in a program approved by a school in the school zone;
    (v) by an individual in accordance with a contract entered into between a school in the school zone and the individual or an employer of the individual;
    (vi) by a law enforcement officer acting in his or her official capacity; or
    (vii) that is unloaded and is possessed by an individual while traversing school premises for the purpose of gaining access to public or private lands open to
     
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