Range time with liberals?

[techres]

I have yet to see a "gun grabber" that is not a statist. They know they are helpless and weak, unable to fight the battle themselves, so they attempt to play on what they perceive as our weakness; namely, that we obey the law. Thus, laws defining this and that as forbidden will do for them what they cannot do themselves: make us helpless, just like them.

I have known ones that are both conservatives and statists. That is, they think that they can keep power semi-permanently and that they need to be the hub of power. They no more trust the masses than do liberals and in so doing are happy to use the law to keep those masses from having hard power.

Remember, Fascists take guns just as fast as Communists...

That being said, conservatives are more comfortable with guns than liberals in my experience. So I assume that, as a trend, they are less likely to grab. But at the same time, I don't assume...

 

[JByer323]

A nice liberal friend of mine contacted me this week about hitting the range, learning not to fear guns, and possibly even helping her buy a gun. Now, her spouse said that their marriage would be over if she brought a gun into their home, so I was asked if I can keep it at my house...

Not to sound sexist or anything here, but from what wrote, I'm picking up that her hubby was threatening to divorce her if she brings a gun home?

Sounds like the dude needs a good sound beating to me. If your wife decides to stand up and learn to defend herself, you should be encouraging and congratulating her...

 

[techres]

Not to sound sexist or anything here, but from what wrote, I'm picking up that her hubby was threatening to divorce her if she brings a gun home?

Sounds like the dude needs a good sound beating to me. If your wife decides to stand up and learn to defend herself, you should be encouraging and congratulating her...

Not a husband. You do the math. Was trying to avoid a threadjack...

 

[rcuhljr]

Not a husband. You do the math. Was trying to avoid a threadjack...

Pink Pistols Splash Page

Once I get a reasonable range that's not too far away I've got a long list of friends and co-workers to take shooting :P

 

[Bill of Rights]

Not a husband.

Therefore, not, technically, a "spouse" either, not in this state.

Note that I have not said that I agree nor disagree with that fact, I state only that it is fact.

No matter, though... JByer's point is still valid and applicable: If someone important to you decides to take responsibility for his or her own safety, this should be encouraged and praised.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[1 old 0311]

I have a friend who is a 'Dancer.' Young, attractive, and lives alone. I took her shooting, and she not only loved it, she was a natural. Two weeks ago she got up in the middle of the night to let her dogs out. When she opened the door a guy rushed her, knocked her down, looked around, then ran out.

I offered to loan her a wheel gun, in case he comes back. Her reply way "I DON'T THINK I COULD SHOOT SOMEONE." I explained she was VERY lucky that nothing happened to her, but she was firm: She will go with me to shoot, but WON'T use a weapon to defend herself.

At this point I realized she was one of the people you read about who have their weapon taken away from them, and used on them. While I CANNOT understand the thinking of people who would rather be a victim, than use violence, I was glad she was honest.

 

[techres]

Therefore, not, legally, a "spouse" either, not in this state.

Note that I have not said that I agree nor disagree with that fact, I state only that it is fact.

Sorta fixed it for you! Mostly I was dodging a threadjack...

As for Pink Pistols, I have been in contact with them for years now and they asked if I could get a group started for them here in Bloomington. I told them I felt "inauthentic" as I am not gay. But if I can get them enough shooters, they can start their own group. I would do the same for a "black" shooting group, or any other self defined sub group that wanted to get into guns as a group.

Cause once they start shooting and learning, they will grow into freedom lovers.

[/threadjack]

Picked up more .22lr on the way home from dinner tonight as my wife wants to go back to the range again. She's the biggest convert I have and she was a tough one at that!

 

[rcuhljr]

Picked up more .22lr on the way home from dinner tonight as my wife wants to go back to the range again. She's the biggest convert I have and she was a tough one at that!

When I was at popguns today their was a family with their two daughters at range, the younger one who must have been 6-7 on a stepstool shooting a cricket warmed my heart

 

[Bill of Rights]

Sorta fixed it for you! Mostly I was dodging a threadjack...

As for Pink Pistols, I have been in contact with them for years now and they asked if I could get a group started for them here in Bloomington. I told them I felt "inauthentic" as I am not gay. But if I can get them enough shooters, they can start their own group. I would do the same for a "black" shooting group, or any other self defined sub group that wanted to get into guns as a group.

Cause once they start shooting and learning, they will grow into freedom lovers.

[/threadjack]

Picked up more .22lr on the way home from dinner tonight as my wife wants to go back to the range again. She's the biggest convert I have and she was a tough one at that!

When you help them with the new Pink Pistols chapter, jutht wear that thweet pink thirt, techres.. I'm sure it'll look FABulouuuus!

In all seriousness, I think you helping them (or anyone) to train, to learn, and/or to take care of themselves is a good thing.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[rhino]

Sounds like she values the safety of a predator who chooses to attack her more than she does her own. You may wish to delicately broach the issue in that manner and get her to think why she would value her own life less than that of someone who would rape and kill her without blinking an eye.

Then find a way to get her to come to the correct conclusion that not only is her life worth defending, she has a responsibility to defend it from predators.

I have a friend who is a 'Dancer.' Young, attractive, and lives alone. I took her shooting, and she not only loved it, she was a natural. Two weeks ago she got up in the middle of the night to let her dogs out. When she opened the door a guy rushed her, knocked her down, looked around, then ran out.

I offered to loan her a wheel gun, in case he comes back. Her reply way "I DON'T THINK I COULD SHOOT SOMEONE." I explained she was VERY lucky that nothing happened to her, but she was firm: She will go with me to shoot, but WON'T use a weapon to defend herself.

At this point I realized she was one of the people you read about who have their weapon taken away from them, and used on them. While I CANNOT understand the thinking of people who would rather be a victim, than use violence, I was glad she was honest.

 

[oldschoolmuscle]

Take a Lib to the range, and one hour later they are converted.

this is a true story, if they can keep a open mind about it..... i have had many a gun hater go shooting and then there hooked...

 

[LS!&*DUBB]

You must work from the old big 4 yard?!

 

[LS!&*DUBB]

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Why do so many here assume that all liberals hate and fear firearms? Most of the gun people I know skew more liberal than conservative.

Although those labels are reductionist to the point of uselessness. Complex, informed political opinions cannot be described in this way.

Uhmmm, pro Gay rights, pro un-doctrinated marriage, pro illegal rights, pro obango, pro obango, pro smoke or inject any drug you choose, pro "Uncle Sam should pay for our addictions", pro my brother has my back, pro I'm not on their list, pro anything democratic.

 

[Bill of Rights]

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Uhmmm, pro Gay rights, pro un-doctrinated marriage, pro illegal rights, pro obango, pro obango, pro smoke or inject any drug you choose, pro "Uncle Sam should pay for our addictions", pro my brother has my back, pro I'm not on their list, pro anything democratic.

Hang on there, LS!&*DUBB,

I'm probably one of the least "liberal" (modern definition; read:socialist) people you will find.
I support human rights, including those of gays.
I don't have any issue with them or any other consenting adult human being married.
I think it would be really nice for each of us to have each others' backs/ Note that that does not say I think it should be forced upon us.
I really could not care less what someone else chooses to do to their own body.

On the other side of that, I don't think illegal trespassers in our country should be welcome to come in and bleed us dry.
I think it's been made exceptionally clear in my sig what I think about Obama.
I do not think anyone should have to pay for anyone else's stupid choices but should have to pay fully for his/her own.

The word I've taken to apply to my politics is "libertarian" with a small L.

The problem I see with many so-called liberals as well as many so-called conservatives is that each wants government to be big on the issues with which they do not agree and small on everything else. I'd rather see what little government exists keep their noses out of things that are not within their Constitutional limits of power.

You may take that for what it's worth.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[rcuhljr]

Little L or big l someones sounding awfully Libertarian :P

 

[paddling_man]

First post here and you come looking for instruction and advice.

Only recently I've been re-introduced to firearms and the importance of the RKBA.. ..I've never spent time with a quality instructor.. ..I'm looking for a qualified instructor that can give me some basic skills ..

Four posts into your time here and you're crapping in this thread.

Puking

Man, not to step on toes but I couldn't make it through post 19 or 20 without puking!

Seven posts in and you're calling folks "stupid??"

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Uhmmm, pro Gay rights, pro un-doctrinated marriage, pro illegal rights, pro obango, pro obango, pro smoke or inject any drug you choose, pro "Uncle Sam should pay for our addictions", pro my brother has my back, pro I'm not on their list, pro anything democratic.

There are a lot of good people on here who are willing to help others. Some who are expert instructors... some nationally known. I don't get the attitude.

The first negative rep I've left since I've been here.

 

[techres]

I have a friend who is a 'Dancer.' Young, attractive, and lives alone. I took her shooting, and she not only loved it, she was a natural. Two weeks ago she got up in the middle of the night to let her dogs out. When she opened the door a guy rushed her, knocked her down, looked around, then ran out.

I offered to loan her a wheel gun, in case he comes back. Her reply way "I DON'T THINK I COULD SHOOT SOMEONE." I explained she was VERY lucky that nothing happened to her, but she was firm: She will go with me to shoot, but WON'T use a weapon to defend herself.

At this point I realized she was one of the people you read about who have their weapon taken away from them, and used on them. While I CANNOT understand the thinking of people who would rather be a victim, than use violence, I was glad she was honest.

Wow, how to work with that? Hmmmm.....

The "dancers" I have known have had plenty of issues and were not the kind to have a strong self that they felt needed and worthy of protection. So you may not get anywhere with her in the end as far as self protection goes.

At the same time, keep taking her to the range and maybe the self-reliance stuff will kick in and she will change, in many ways for the better.

 

[LS!&*DUBB]

First post here and you come looking for instruction and advice.



Four posts into your time here and you're crapping in this thread.

Puking


Seven posts in and you're calling folks "stupid??"


There are a lot of good people on here who are willing to help others. Some who are expert instructors... some nationally known. I don't get the attitude.

The first negative rep I've left since I've been here.

Well, since I don't have 10 posts I'm unable to PM those that I may have offended, So..... I'll post it here. I'm not going to make excuses and give reasons why I made the comments I did. I agree that I made some statements that could be or are offensive. I'm a member of other forums and I was familiarized with the freedoms available to those sites. I came here; without taking the time to know and understand some of the members, and assumed that those freedoms were the same. I was wrong for making that assumption. jrogers, please accept my apology asking such an ignorant question. kimbld89, forgive me for making a post as useless as I did. If anyone else was offended please let me know and I'll try to make amends! OK, so I made an excuse. Couldn't help it.

Sorry,
LS178Dubb

 

[srad]

will experiment this week

I have a lib friend or two... I can try to drag them to the range kickin & screamin this week.

 

[jdhaines]

I hadn't ever heard of the pink pistols, but I may let a few people know. It's amazing how at least a couple gay people I know side with liberals because they think it is the only side open. I realize that many conservatives don't agree with their preferences, but I think EVERYONE should agree that those are battles to be fought in words and peaceful means, rather than violence. I'm all for groups who feel in danger of attack getting what they need to be able to protect themselves.