It will be interesting to see if the statistics bear that out over time. Currently, I'm not sure they do.
Yeah, maybe an assumption, but I don't think it could ever lower your odds of survival.
It will be interesting to see if the statistics bear that out over time. Currently, I'm not sure they do.
Yeah, maybe an assumption, but I don't think it could ever lower your odds of survival.
It will be interesting to see if the statistics bear that out over time. Currently, I'm not sure they do.
Awesome info as usual BBI. May it take you a long time to compile more stats and update your charts. Yeah, I know its not gonna happen, but we can hope for fewer incidents.
Just one question, what is a "Handgun-other" ? Derringer?
I'd say a proper training class that reinforced how terrible off body carry was, that carrying on an empty chamber was bad, disguising your draw stroke, and either ditching the thumb safety or practicing until you couldn't get it wrong would have increased the success rates.
Great thread BBI i'm hooked! Can you tell more about victim killed reaching for weapon? In glove box? Too late to draw?
BBI, this is a great thread. Thanks so much for the time and effort you have put into this already! I don't bookmark many threads, but I am bookmarking this one.
Great info. Subscribed.
Awesomesauce.
Humbly, I think it should be a breakdown in each of the "shots fired" categories.
Something like this, that could be relatively transferred to a pivot table:
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Total Shots During Encounter Shots Prior to Resolution Victim outcome (w/l) Victim Criminal Total Victim Criminal Total
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Total Shots During Encounter
Shots Prior to Resolution Victim outcome (w/l) Victim
Criminal Total Victim Criminal Total
OK, HTF did you get the table in the post? I could have saved a butt ton of time formatting if I could have figured that out.
Copy/paste, but when you paste into the reply, make sure you are in "advanced." There is a button with "table properties." Click that with the table selected and have it show borders (grid). Caveat: some vBB versions are better at tables than others. INGO's current one is ok, but not great. Some formatting will get wonky, in my limited experience using tables here.
Total Shots During Encounter | Shots Prior to Resolution | Intended Victim outcome (w/l) | ||||
Victim | Criminal | Total | Victim | Criminal | Total | |
1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | Win |
Total Shots During Encounter | Shots Prior to Resolution | Intended Victim outcome (w/l) | ||||
Victim | Criminal | Total | Victim | Criminal | Total | |
1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | Win |
It was off body carry. Off body carry was also a leading issue in the 'tie'.
Showoff.Or if you want to do it "old school", you can just use the tags, as I've edited his original in this reply to show.