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The best looking hookers are always cops. Teach us that in Criminal Procedure II.
The best looking hookers are always cops. Teach us that in Criminal Procedure II.
Straight from Kirk's CLE materials in support of this assertion.
The best looking hookers are always cops. Teach us that in Criminal Procedure II.
United States v. Black, 707 F.3d 531, 540 (4th Cir. 2013)
Absent any other suspicious behavior, the carrying of a firearm alone does NOT create reasonable*
suspicion for detention.
(“Where a*state permits individuals to openly carry firearms, the exercise of this right, without more, cannot justify*an investigatory detention.”).
Thus, officers stopping an individual for carrying a firearm must be able to*point to additional suspect behavior that led them to believe criminal activity was afoot. There is NO*Indiana statutory authority that permits an officer to stop an individual carrying a handgun*solely for the purpose of verifying the existence of a valid handgun license.*
Don’t open carry!
I'm going to have to look up this Pinner thing. It gets brought up a lot and I don't really know much about it.Actually that decision is not binding on Indiana. It was not until Pinner that we had standing on this point.
United States v. Black, 707 F.3d 531, 540 (4th Cir. 2013)
Absent any other suspicious behavior, the carrying of a firearm alone does NOT create reasonable*
suspicion for detention.
(“Where a*state permits individuals to openly carry firearms, the exercise of this right, without more, cannot justify*an investigatory detention.”).
Thus, officers stopping an individual for carrying a firearm must be able to*point to additional suspect behavior that led them to believe criminal activity was afoot. There is NO*Indiana statutory authority that permits an officer to stop an individual carrying a handgun*solely for the purpose of verifying the existence of a valid handgun license.*
When I see people open carry I wonder why they want to be the first target of a criminal. If you are in a public setting and open carry and a person decides to commit a robbery or other violent crime, tactics determine they will take out the first and most obvious threat. That’s the open carry guy. I want to tell these dudes, I understand and appreciate your desire (and right) to carry a firearm, but don’t make yourself a target. A handgun is a defensive weapon, so carry it that way. Give yourself the tactical advantage over your adversary.
Next point, don’t provoke law enforcement, it’s just dumb. If you walk down the street with a rifle or walk through Walmart open carrying a firearm, someone is going to be rattled and call the police. The police then have to respond and the call comes out as “a person with a gun”, not a law abiding dude advertising his 2nd Ammend. rights. It just creates an unnecessary situation. If you are the anti-government type and just want to cause a stir and provoke a confrontation so you can film it to be a YouTube legend, you should rethink your priorities in life. That is not the reason warriors died protecting your rights. It’s similar to the saying “you have freedom of speech, but not freedom of consequence...”. If you say something particularly offensive to someone and they punch you in the face, you should expect that. Sure you had the right to say it and they may be wrong for punching you, but why create the situation in the first place. The police aren’t out to get you, don’t provoke bad situations.
When I see people open carry I wonder why they want to be the first target of a criminal. If you are in a public setting and open carry and a person decides to commit a robbery or other violent crime, tactics determine they will take out the first and most obvious threat. That’s the open carry guy. I want to tell these dudes, I understand and appreciate your desire (and right) to carry a firearm, but don’t make yourself a target. A handgun is a defensive weapon, so carry it that way. Give yourself the tactical advantage over your adversary.
Next point, don’t provoke law enforcement, it’s just dumb. If you walk down the street with a rifle or walk through Walmart open carrying a firearm, someone is going to be rattled and call the police. The police then have to respond and the call comes out as “a person with a gun”, not a law abiding dude advertising his 2nd Ammend. rights. It just creates an unnecessary situation. If you are the anti-government type and just want to cause a stir and provoke a confrontation so you can film it to be a YouTube legend, you should rethink your priorities in life. That is not the reason warriors died protecting your rights. It’s similar to the saying “you have freedom of speech, but not freedom of consequence...”. If you say something particularly offensive to someone and they punch you in the face, you should expect that. Sure you had the right to say it and they may be wrong for punching you, but why create the situation in the first place. The police aren’t out to get you, don’t provoke bad situations.
Why, how helpful. It reminds me of the time I asked about trigger springs for a 10-22 and someone said, "Don't modify your weapon!"
It completely avoids all the discussion of the last 9 pages. Kudos to you, sir, for cutting through the BS and negating the need to think or talk!
appreciate you calling me “sir.” It’s a sign of respect. Type of carry and modifying are two different topics of discussion and have little to no bearing on each other. My three word post was trying to keep it simple, STUPID. Apologize for your “butt-hurt.
When I see people open carry I wonder why they want to be the first target of a criminal.
If you are in a public setting and open carry and a person decides to commit a robbery or other violent crime, tactics determine they will take out the first and most obvious threat.
That’s the open carry guy.
I want to tell these dudes, I understand and appreciate your desire (and right) to carry a firearm, but don’t make yourself a target. A handgun is a defensive weapon, so carry it that way. Give yourself the tactical advantage over your adversary.
Next point, don’t provoke law enforcement, it’s just dumb. If you walk down the street with a rifle or walk through Walmart open carrying a firearm, someone is going to be rattled and call the police. The police then have to respond and the call comes out as “a person with a gun”, not a law abiding dude advertising his 2nd Ammend. rights.
It just creates an unnecessary situation. If you are the anti-government type and just want to cause a stir and provoke a confrontation so you can film it to be a YouTube legend, you should rethink your priorities in life.
That is not the reason warriors died protecting your rights. It’s similar to the saying “you have freedom of speech, but not freedom of consequence...”. If you say something particularly offensive to someone and they punch you in the face, you should expect that. Sure you had the right to say it and they may be wrong for punching you, but why create the situation in the first place. The police aren’t out to get you, don’t provoke bad situations.