Past amnesty period "traps"?

[DDadams]

I keep seeing post after post after video after video about the brace ruling amnesty stamp being a trap to just convict everyone who registers.

I can't help but think this is just a bit over the top, even for the ATF.

The backlash from not only the courts but the public would be enough to break the whole agency if they did this after saying it would just be amnesty. Let alone it not making sense because they WANT people to comply when they ask to take our rights. Why punish those who do that?

So my question is - under previous amnesty periods for machine guns etc was there any convictions that people know of that happened to those who took them up on the supposed amnesty?

I know we live in a different time but I just can't get myself to believe this. And I'd be the person the news calls the 'crazy conspiracy person' - I believe a vast majority of the well known ones. (Not flat earth type of garbage though lol)

So has the ATF set traps up like this to trap large swathes of people, and actually gone through with it?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

I think it's born out of a desire to register as many firearms as they can. I suspect the ATF would rather everyone have a registered SBR than an unregistered pistol. Not for any specific nefarious purpose, but because they want to keep tabs on everything and everyone (insofar as that isn't a nefarious purpose in and of itself)

 

[DDadams]

I think it's born out of a desire to register as many firearms as they can. I suspect the ATF would rather everyone have a registered SBR than an unregistered pistol. Not for any specific nefarious purpose, but because they want to keep tabs on everything and everyone (insofar as that isn't a nefarious purpose in and of itself)

I hadn't even considered it that way, but thar makes a lot of sense and I think you're on the right track with this ruling.

 

[MCgrease08]

There is already a very active thread on this topic.

 

[printcraft]

Remind me what happened in Canada after they made everyone register?

 

[BigMoose]

The 1968 Amnesty was for the most part a TRUE Amnesty.



There were also supposed to be more of them, but they never did.
"(d) The Secretary of the Treasury, after publication in the Federal
Register of his intention to do so, is authorized to establish such periods
of amnesty, not to exceed ninety days in the case of any single period,
and immunity from liability during any such period, as the Secretary
determines will contribute to the purposes of this title."

Needless to say no Sec of Treasury ever had another. Mostly because a few incidents.

Like Ian said, it literally let service members, amnesty their service rifle from whatever service they were in, and take them home.

What You Didn’t Know About the 1968 Machine Gun Amnesty

www.forgottenweapons.com

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I keep seeing post after post after video after video about the brace ruling amnesty stamp being a trap to just convict everyone who registers.

Zero percent chance. Even assume that's some diabolical plan, a 2nd year law student could make a fruit of the poisonous tree argument, and ex post facto is still a thing. People like to pretend the county is some sort of police state but continuously forget that separation of powers works and how many 2nd amendment victories have come from the courts instead of the legislators.

Add in you need an AUSA to agree to federal charges, which is a pain in the ass itself and only briefly during the Trump years would they look at one guy/one gun crimes, and it's just more rage porn to drive clicks.

 

[DDadams]

Remind me what happened in Canada after they made everyone register?

I wasn't aware they got rid of braces and made everyone with them register them as SBRs in Canada?

Probably because it didn't happen.

I'm not defending this ruling - and hope it gets overturned as soon as possible. Registration is a horrid idea.

But comparing this to a full registration isn't really the same. Especially with what the thread was initially about. Completely unrelated.

 

[Haven]

This Lawyer seems to say that a lot of what is being discussed in this thread and others is a bit of panic without cause.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Very active thread on the subject already in progress.

New BATF ruling on stabilizing braces today

Getting my form 1 and form 4s approved would go a long way to get the queue clear.

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