They are all still recoil operated, tilt-barrel handguns fed from a magazine inserted in to the grip.
John Moses Browning called, he wants his design back
They are all still recoil operated, tilt-barrel handguns fed from a magazine inserted in to the grip.
The VP70 came out in the time of the Dirty Harry movies, where everyone wanted a model 29 and police were carrying revolvers so everyone else wanted a revolver. When polymer guns was unthinkable
For coming out in 1970 and glock not coming out with a pistol until at least 10 years later was monumental and without the VP70 there could be a possibility the glock would never have been
HK is HK, they never gave anything away and they never had to. (well, until recently and the whoring out of the VP9). Glock damn near gave away their pistols to promote themselves
After Sig P320 owners start getting their "upgraded" pistols back and the dust settles, everyone will soon forget about this, just like the Glock, Colt, Remington, et al transgressions.
After Sig P320 owners start getting their "upgraded" pistols back and the dust settles, everyone will soon forget about this, just like the Glock, Colt, Remington, et al transgressions.
"Completely different." Have you ever field stripped another brand polymer frame, striker fired pistol and compared the internals? Most of them are variations on the Glock theme. They are all still recoil operated, tilt-barrel handguns fed from a magazine inserted in to the grip. They are only "completely different" in the same way that a Ford F150 is "completely different" than a Chevy Silverado.
And "pointless" is in the eye of the beholder. Is it pointless to have more than one brand of pickup truck available? Variety is the spice of life.
People have short memories. Probably a prudent decision to reduce liability, if giving instruction. Better safe than sorry.Well clearly it won't be forgotten, you listing other examples shows this. It will most likely though be forgiven.
I was a little surprised to see that there are some instructors out there temporarily banning the 320 in class.
Yeah, I'm really glad I bought an F-150 with the steel bed. Have you seen what dropping large chunks of concrete into the bed do to those aluminum beds? Chevrolet is incensed!Yup. Which is why we get the QC we get.
How many owners are even aware of the issue, blow it off as "I just never guns", etc.
Question is this....will your apex and GG triggers work after the "upgrade". If not then you can either leave them be or ship them back to the mothership and flush that money spent on the apex and GG triggers
The Sig P250 was a piece of junk when it came out, and the P320 is nothing but a modified P250.
This is no surprise. The Army will find out soon enough.
I won't be sening mine in right away just to see if this is the case.My P320 nor the GG trigger is going anywhere. I see no need for this "upgrade" for my personal use.
ETA: my suspicion is that the resulting P320 "upgrade" trigger will make a factory glock trigger feel like a match trigger. No thanks. The infinitesimally small risk of AD is worth the near 100% certainty of Sig ruining the P320 trigger.
I don't think you ever shot an actual P250, have you? Yes, the Compact versions had some problems. Yes, those were fixed, and like all the other P250s, they were EXCELLENT pistols.
But alas, Sig cut them loose. More's the pity.
As I've mentioned, many years ago, I had a S&W model 36 with 3" barrel fall out of an upside down shoulder holster, while I was wearing it and engaged in strenuous activity (get your mind out of the gutter). The revolver fell on the hammer spur, hard enough to break it. The hammer block probably saved me from serious injury or worse. At that moment, I quit upside down shoulder holsters. Although the chances of me dropping my one and only Sig, a recently purchased P320, are remote, I'll send mine in for the "voluntary upgrade", even though the trigger pull and trigger reach were big factors in my purchase. It may be months from now, but I'll happily give my opinion of the "upgraded" trigger pull. I'm hoping for the best.My P320 nor the GG trigger is going anywhere. I see no need for this "upgrade" for my personal use.
ETA: my suspicion is that the resulting P320 "upgrade" trigger will make a factory glock trigger feel like a match trigger. No thanks. The infinitesimally small risk of AD is worth the near 100% certainty of Sig ruining the P320 trigger.
from what i have seen on the interwebs (get grain of salt ready, maybe even some tequila), is the x5 model does not display this issue as the trigger is too light. maybe the result of an actual recall might be to give these things a more match like trigger to keep the inertia down on the trigger itself. these people could get their pistols back and think, dag gone it, this is the nicest trigger i have ever shot (doubt it, but, who knows).
from what i have seen on the interwebs (get grain of salt ready, maybe even some tequila), is the x5 model does not display this issue as the trigger is too light. maybe the result of an actual recall might be to give these things a more match like trigger to keep the inertia down on the trigger itself. these people could get their pistols back and think, dag gone it, this is the nicest trigger i have ever shot (doubt it, but, who knows).