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  • Episcopus

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    It is beyond me how anyone could vote for either candidate.

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    McCain (National Socialist) vs. Obama (Olde-Timey Socialist)

    They are the two realistic options we have. You can vote third party as a protest, but if you don't vote for the major candidate that you can stomach most easily, you are letting others decide who wins and doing very little to influence it yourself.
     

    Bill of Rights

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    You do realize she has as much experience as Obama right?

    They're running for Executive Branch offices. He has extensive experience running for office. She has experience in an Executive Branch office, albeit at the city and state levels.

    As I said on another thread, she has more executive experience as a mother than he has as a politician. Add her political experience on top of it and I won't say she has double or triple his experience: Twice or even thrice nothing is still nothing.

    Blessings,
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    jeremy

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    It all comes down to this, which is the lesser of the two evils. I am going to vote for Mcain because he at least has stepped into harms way himself, so when he sends me to whatever sh*thole to fight next in. I will at least know the boss has been in my boots!
     

    BloodEclipse

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    Add her political experience on top of it and I won't say she has double or triple his experience: Twice or even thrice nothing is still nothing.

    Blessings,
    B

    Oh but he has experience... with cocaine, marijuana, the black separatist movement (Rev Wright), communism (Frank Marshall Davis), terrorists (William Ayers),shady land deal (Tony Rezko), geography (57 states), and lots of experience delivering awe inspiring speeches about nothing while using a teleprompter.
     

    Episcopus

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    Find me a viable third party candidate with a realistic shot and I will happily vote for one. Until that happens, I will vote for the major party candidate that I find least repulsive. Do I have to be happy about the options? Nope. But if I sit out or vote on a non-contender and the candidate that I find most repulsive wins, I am resigned to following that leadership for at least 4 years, and it is partially my fault for not lodging a vote for a realistic candidate and helping shape and influence the election. But yeah, sheep, sure.
     

    finity

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    I think it is (typically) hypocritical of Republicans to act offended about a joke that was or was not directed at one of theirs in light of all the BS that is said just on this board about Obama. I think some of you need to grow a thicker skin & avoid the "pot & kettle" syndrome.

    Except for his views on gun control (= bad), where has anybody seen anything from Obama that would lead you to believe that he will take away all of our rights? Talk about fear mongering (the sky is falling!, the end is nigh!).

    I will say it again:

    His views are in line with most Democratic administrations. People generally are better off economically during Democratic administrations compared to Republican ones. These are facts. As I was told, do your own research instead of being told what to think by Rush or those on Fox & Friends.
     

    Justus

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    Except for his views on gun control (= bad), where has anybody seen anything from Obama that would lead you to believe that he will take away all of our rights? Talk about fear mongering (the sky is falling!, the end is nigh!).

    Isn't getting one right taken away enough?

    You say that folks are better off economically with a
    democrat administration:
    How much are your rights worth?

    Heller was a very close vote, do you really want
    a socialist like Obama (backed by the current Congress)
    appointing the next one or two Supreme Court judges?
     

    Paul

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    I think it is (typically) hypocritical of Republicans to act offended about a joke that was or was not directed at one of theirs in light of all the BS that is said just on this board about Obama. I think some of you need to grow a thicker skin & avoid the "pot & kettle" syndrome.

    Except for his views on gun control (= bad), where has anybody seen anything from Obama that would lead you to believe that he will take away all of our rights? Talk about fear mongering (the sky is falling!, the end is nigh!).

    I will say it again:

    His views are in line with most Democratic administrations. People generally are better off economically during Democratic administrations compared to Republican ones. These are facts. As I was told, do your own research instead of being told what to think by Rush or those on Fox & Friends.

    Not true. How can you do better if you are being taxed more. The only people who do better during a dem presidency is the lazy people who get the govs handouts. The economy has grown 19% since Bush was in office. That is with 9/11 and fighting 2 wars. Remember, Indiana lost a lot of jobs because of 9/11's effect on the airline industry. That was not Bush's fault.
     

    JetGirl

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    I think it is (typically) hypocritical of Republicans to act offended about a joke that was or was not directed at one of theirs in light of all the BS that is said just on this board about Obama.
    Was or was not??
    What a bunch of happy horseshit that is! If he did mean it, then he's stupid for saying it which translates into him not being the wonderfully bright individual everyone is lead to believe he is.
    If he didn't mean it, then so much for the wonderful orator and brilliant speech giver he's supposed to be.
     

    Bill of Rights

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    Except for his views on gun control (= bad), where has anybody seen anything from Obama that would lead you to believe that he will take away all of our rights? Talk about fear mongering (the sky is falling!, the end is nigh!).

    He doesn't have to talk about those now. Once gun rights are denied the citizenry (subjects, at that point), he will have no opposition and the rest of our rights go quietly away, since we can do nothing at that point to stop him.

    I will say it again:

    His views are in line with most Democratic administrations. People generally are better off economically during Democratic administrations compared to Republican ones. These are facts. As I was told, do your own research instead of being told what to think by Rush or those on Fox & Friends.

    His views are in line with most Democratic (sic) administrations? Riiiight.. and we were SO much better under Clinton and Carter, Johnson, FDR...

    :rolleyes:

    Just because our views don't agree with yours does not mean we listen to either Fox or Rush. I personally don't listen to either one.

    Blessings,
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    Hoosier8

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    My honest opinion of an Obama presidency is that he will handle it no differently than he did his duties as president of the Harvard Law Review (which by the way, he contributed no writing). He was known to not have any opinion of his own. He would take everyone's input and come out somewhere that would upset the least amount of people. I think you can see that now in how he has already handled his difficulties by abandoning current views and dropping longtime acquaintances. In other words, he has no strong convictions that he is willing to uphold.

    In some ways, as a president, I think this kind of personality could be very dangerous. I will grant you that I truely beleive that anyone that gets into the White House wants to do a good job. I am not cynical enough to buy into the conspirasy theories. I still believe in the American Dream and the power of the Presidency.

    It is funny though that people want a strong president but if the president has strong opinions, it scares the heck out of them. I find that somewhat neurotic.
     

    Justus

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    In some ways, as a president, I think this kind of personality could be very dangerous. I will grant you that I truely beleive that anyone that gets into the White House wants to do a good job. I am not cynical enough to buy into the conspirasy theories. I still believe in the American Dream and the power of the Presidency.

    It is funny though that people want a strong president but if the president has strong opinions, it scares the heck out of them. I find that somewhat neurotic.


    He's obviously been the apprentice of the left.
    From what I've researched Ayers was actually one of the
    original supporters and fund-raisers for his initial campaign.
    IMO,I don't think that his speech in '04 was the
    only deciding factor in his attempted coronation.
     

    finity

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    He doesn't have to talk about those now. Once gun rights are denied the citizenry (subjects, at that point), he will have no opposition and the rest of our rights go quietly away, since we can do nothing at that point to stop him.



    His views are in line with most Democratic (sic) administrations? Riiiight.. and we were SO much better under Clinton and Carter, Johnson, FDR...

    :rolleyes:

    Just because our views don't agree with yours does not mean we listen to either Fox or Rush. I personally don't listen to either one.

    Blessings,
    B

    So its true that all of the stuff that is spouted here about socialist, fascist (which are exactly opposite by the way), take away all our rights, etc are just that..spouting off with no basis in evidence.

    So Bush never violated our rights? Warrentless wiretaps, patriot act, habeus corpus, protest zones & the list goes on. Since McCain is a bush wanna-be, who is to say he won't be just as bad for our freedoms as the last 8 years have been?

    & yes people are generally better off during a Democratic (SIC) Presidents administration compared to a Republican one. Unemployment is generally lower & inflation is also generally lower. I posted the numbers on here somewhere just recently. Look them up & become educated.

    How many times do I have to say it:

    I am not enthralled with either candidate. I hate Obamas views on gun control, until recently. McCains isn't terribly better, until recently. We don't need four more years of Bush. I'm looking at both sides.
     

    finity

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    Was or was not??
    What a bunch of happy horseshit that is! If he did mean it, then he's stupid for saying it which translates into him not being the wonderfully bright individual everyone is lead to believe he is.
    If he didn't mean it, then so much for the wonderful orator and brilliant speech giver he's supposed to be.

    Yes, was or was not. I don't know & neither do you or anybody else here. either way it makes no difference.

    Why was it stupid for him to say it? It was a play on words used as a jab against his opponent. Do you really think he the thinks Palin is a pig? Holy ****, it was a joke!

    So your saying that the Republicans have either never made a joke about a Democrat or have ever misspoken? You must have hated GWB. He was the king of stupid gaffes.
     

    JetGirl

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    I don't know & neither do you or anybody else here.
    Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not willing to speak for others.
    Why was it stupid for him to say it?
    If you really have to ask that, then you haven't been paying attention.
    Do you really think he the thinks Palin is a pig? Holy ****, it was a joke!
    :rolleyes:
    So your saying that the Republicans have either never made a joke about a Democrat or have ever misspoken? You must have hated GWB. He was the king of stupid gaffes.
    Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass either way.;)
     
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