Obama to propose two free years of community college for students.

[hoosierdoc]

I'd be ok with the free community college, if it made the student ineligible for welfare for 10 years.

Heck, the dental school tells students to go ON welfare while in school.

 

[BogWalker]

Public Education, years 13 and 14

I feel this bears repeating. If everybody starts going to college a high school diploma will be nigh worthless. Already is halfway to being.

Grandpa dropped out of school in third grade. Went on to work a few decades in the factories when he got old enough to move out. Turned out okay for him, but you won't get by with that anymore. He knew how to work with his hands.

 

[Bfish]

I went to "community college" for a year just to get some gen ed credits knocked out and stay out of debt, plus I could work much more than when I was enrolled at a state school. The one thing that I did notice was how much attendance dropped after student's received their borrowed money... Got the check "for school" and then never came again. Granted that is debt that won't go away, but it just showed me the mindset.

 

[jamil]

I went to "community college" for a year just to get some gen ed credits knocked out and stay out of debt, plus I could work much more than when I was enrolled at a state school. The one thing that I did notice was how much attendance dropped after student's received their borrowed money... Got the check "for school" and then never came again. Granted that is debt that won't go away, but it just showed me the mindset.

Oh, no. It goes away. That's the "guaranteed" part of the student loan. But at least there are still consequences for default.

 

[actaeon277]

I saw a bumper sticker recently that said "if you want small govt and low taxes move to somalia" which of course was right next to the "Obama 2012" bumper sticker.

I just can't wrap my brain around folks that want big govt and high taxes.

People that mistake small government for no government.

 

[jamil]

Need to out a bumpersticker next to it that says, "if you want big government and the unmanageable debt that goes with it, move to Greece."

 

[Birds Away]

Nice of him to offer to personally pay for all the tuition.

 

[femurphy77]

I feel this bears repeating. If everybody starts going to college a high school diploma will be nigh worthless. Already is halfway to being.

Grandpa dropped out of school in third grade. Went on to work a few decades in the factories when he got old enough to move out. Turned out okay for him, but you won't get by with that anymore. He knew how to work with his hands.

I work for a fairly large hospital system here in Indiana and am a member of the hiring team in our department. I've been involved in interviewing and hiring several people over the past few years and I'm here to tell you that even the lowest paid position we've filled in that time was filled with a person with at least an associates degree in various arenas. Even the entry level secretarial position we recently filled went to a person with an AS in whatever. When you have multiple skilled, hirable applicants it comes down to how many letters are behind their names even if the job doesn't require it. Simple fact of life nowadays is that the associates degree of today is the high school diploma of yesterday. Hell we had a carpenter retire the first of the year and even he had a Bachelor's degree in history!

 

[jamil]

I work for a fairly large hospital system here in Indiana and am a member of the hiring team in our department. I've been involved in interviewing and hiring several people over the past few years and I'm here to tell you that even the lowest paid position we've filled in that time was filled with a person with at least an associates degree in various arenas. Even the entry level secretarial position we recently filled went to a person with an AS in whatever. When you have multiple skilled, hirable applicants it comes down to how many letters are behind their names even if the job doesn't require it. Simple fact of life nowadays is that the associates degree of today is the high school diploma of yesterday. Hell we had a carpenter retire the first of the year and even he had a Bachelor's degree in history!

He's a carpenter because a history degree is not all that valuable for a lot of occupations.

 

[actaeon277]

I work for a fairly large hospital system here in Indiana and am a member of the hiring team in our department. I've been involved in interviewing and hiring several people over the past few years and I'm here to tell you that even the lowest paid position we've filled in that time was filled with a person with at least an associates degree in various arenas. Even the entry level secretarial position we recently filled went to a person with an AS in whatever. When you have multiple skilled, hirable applicants it comes down to how many letters are behind their names even if the job doesn't require it. Simple fact of life nowadays is that the associates degree of today is the high school diploma of yesterday. Hell we had a carpenter retire the first of the year and even he had a Bachelor's degree in history!

We have various test for various positions at work. College grads seem to have problems passing the entrance test for the craftsman rate.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[BugI02]

That would be better with a picture of Shkreli

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[actaeon277]

Free college.
We already have it

 

[HubertGummer]

Free college.
We already have it

you're missing the point...they want free college but they don't want to contribute anything.

 

[actaeon277]

Free college.
We already have it

you're missing the point...they want free college but they don't want to contribute anything.

I've heard it said that the military is "not contributing".
So they should be ok.

 

[BogWalker]

Nobody is getting free college. It just defers the cost onto somebody else. This is the concept they can't grasp, or those that do grasp it just say it should be paid for by "the rich", which they can never seem to peg down just who falls into that. I bet all of them wish they were rich someday, and the few that do get there will ***** about taxes for the rest of their lives and never get what I'm laughing at.