IL residents can get the Florida, Utah, AZ, etc permits.
Does that mean they can carry here in FreedomLand?
IL residents can get the Florida, Utah, AZ, etc permits.
Deal. I just need some range time with my .45 so I don't care if its too inconsistant or w/es.
PM me if you'd like. I work 2 minutes from the cigar lounge so I can come in any time.
Is $400 out the door for 1k rounds of Lake City XM193 on stripper clips a good, standard, or bad deal? I know CTD sells 840 rounds of XM193 for around $320 before shipping, but they also comes in a spam can, include some bandoliers, and a few other "goodies" so I wasn't sure how that price would compare to the deal for 1k rounds.
Thoughts?
I always break it down to cost per round. Your LC XM193 comes out to $0.40/round ... the CTD cost for XM193 is $0.38/round. Wally World price for .223 Federal is currently $0.39/round.
Now you have to figure in taxes, shipping, and the "goodies" as well as the type of ammo you want ... .223 vs. 5.56 ... Lake City vs. Federal, etc.
To the original question ... strictly based on price, you are average with the 1K ... I think.
NEVER EVER buy from the shysters at CTD. CTD has a long well established history of screwing gun owners by jacking up prices. I consider them unethical and bad for the gun community, preying on the unsuspecting and ignorant.
Neither of those are particularly good deals. I just checked AMMOMAN.com (its one of several that I check for prices) and they have Federal for $399/1000, PMC at $369/1000, Wolf steel case at $259/1000. Those are DELIVERED prices.
In your opinion, how do Federal and PMC compare to XM193 in terms of quality? If the XM193's are only $1 more than Federal, I'd be willing to give them a try if it's good ammo.
In my opinion, if the ammo is practice/range ammo then you should skip both and buy the cheapest steel case stuff you can find, buy a lot of it, and shoot it.
If you are planning to store the ammo for some sort of SHTF scenario where you want a 1000 or more rounds safely tucked away then I'd opt for a brass cased ammo.
Honestly, all the factory stuff is good enough for SHTF and all of it is overkill for practice shooting. The ONLY time that I won't use a steel case round is in a target grade long range rifle. But other than that, cheap ammo lets you shoot more. More shooting practice leads to better skills. Better skills equals more effective use of the weapon.
In my opinion, if the ammo is practice/range ammo then you should skip both and buy the cheapest steel case stuff you can find, buy a lot of it, and shoot it.
If you are planning to store the ammo for some sort of SHTF scenario where you want a 1000 or more rounds safely tucked away then I'd opt for a brass cased ammo.
Honestly, all the factory stuff is good enough for SHTF and all of it is overkill for practice shooting. The ONLY time that I won't use a steel case round is in a target grade long range rifle. But other than that, cheap ammo lets you shoot more. More shooting practice leads to better skills. Better skills equals more effective use of the weapon. There is no service grade weapon on this planet that I would not use steel case ammo in and I currently don't own a 223/5.56 rifle that has a target grade chamber/barrel so every one of my 223/5.56 guns is fair game for steel case cheap ammo.
Is steel case dirtier? No. Cheap ammo is generally dirtier. Some cheap ammo is steel cased, some is brass cased. The 'dirtier' aspect is the type of powder used.
Should dirty powder deter you from buying a brand of ammo? No. At least not if you clean your guns periodically.
Is steel case ammo harder on your gun? Marginally yes. We are talking about mild steel and it is harder than brass or aluminum. It is simultaneously softer than a hardened bolt and a hardened chamber. If you think it will destroy your gun then go look at an AK47 where steel case is far more commonly used and show me where those break. Or show me examples where AR15s can be proven to have broken (extractor?) specifically because of steel ammo. I can't find any real definitive proof.
JMO, but backed up with fact, leaving out emotion.
Notice the bucket lift is on a tow truck, prolly not terribly unsafe, but not genius
He is up in the bucket with no safety gear, with a lift on the flat bed that wasn't even chained down. Even the guy working with him was taking a picture.
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