Prometheus
Master
You're angry at the NRA because they allegedly joined a pending injunction 2 weeks after it was filed?
No I'm not mad because it took them 3 weeks to do something. I'm not mad because they only attached their name and nothing more. I AM MAD because they went on to produce a movie and mass mail it claiming they were the sole reason Katrina victims got there guns back. It was a huge lie and they did it for ONE REASON: MONEY.
How is the NRA "screwing" gun owners?
The Kagan nonsense is exactly that, nonsense. Fiction that many here are repeating as fact and get caught up in some self-reinforcing delusional anger.
O.K., Prom, give us your bill of particulars. What and when?
Here is small snippet. I'm tired of typing it out over and over again for you people to ignore.
This is the tip of the iceberg:
The REAL NRAI can think of a multitude of reasons not to join the NRA. One among the top reasons, is that they are not a '2nd Amendment Rights' organization. The NRA has been behind most of the gun control legislation.
Wow, that's incredible and hard to believe you say. Surely that man must be nuts. Well, if you enjoy firearms history like I do, please do some reading.
The NRA has 'covertly' worked in the past to take away 2nd Amendment Rights. That's a cold hard fact.
The NRA helped craft the 1934 NFA act, the 1968 Gun Control Act just to name a few. These laws help restrict the 2nd Amendment.
The NRA tried unsuccessfully to scuttle a rare 2nd Amendment victory -- U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled that D.C.’s gun ban violates the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
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The attorneys involved in litigating the case have stated that the NRA acted as an obstruction. Attorney Alan Gura has commented on the NRA's "sham litigation" to have Parker consolidated with NRA controlled litigation, and stated that "the NRA was adamant about not wanting the Supreme Court to hear the case".[6] Cato Institute senior fellow Robert Levy, co-counsel to the Parker plaintiffs, has stated that the Parker plaintiffs "faced repeated attempts by the NRA to derail the litigation."[7]
What kind of gun right organization actively undermines a case so important to gun ownership nationwide?
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"The National Rifle Association has been in support of workable, enforceable gun control legislation since its very inception in 1871."
—NRA Executive Vice President Franklin L. Orth
NRA's American Rifleman Magazine, March 1968, P. 22
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"The NRA supported The National Firearms Act of 1934 which taxes and requires registration of such firearms as machine guns, sawed-off rifles and sawed-off shotguns. ... NRA support of Federal gun legislation did not stop with the earlier Dodd bills. It currently backs several Senate and House bills which, through amendment, would put new teeth into the National and Federal Firearms Acts." —American Rifleman, March 1968, P. 22
Now in 2007, the NRA has joined forces with the very people who would love to disarm American's -- the Brady Campaign. Who helped craft H.R. 2640? Why Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) and FORMER NRA BOARD MEMBER Rep. John Dingell (D-MI).
The NRA currently has on its board of directors, Joaquin Jackson, who was caught on video stating the mere civilians shouldn't be able to own magazines that hold more than 5 rounds.
And just this past weekend on CNN Glen Beck show, the chief lobbyist for the NRA Chris Cox publicly stated that the NRA has never supported fully automatic firearms. <see below>
Why would the NRA keep surrendering on every piece of legislation that comes down the pike? Perhaps they forgot about the “shall not be abridged" part of the Amendment and think it says 'compromised away'.
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The NRA's Role In Creation of the 1934 National Firearms Act
Congressional hearings over the National Firearms Act of 1934 (H.R.9066) took place April 16 & 18 and May 14, 15, & 16 of 1934. Then-NRA President Karl T. Frederick testified on behalf of the National Rifle Association (NRA).
NFA'34 is the foundation for all federal gun control and has been used in courts to justify many state gun controls -- and gun control is clearly about disarmament.
Example of NRA President's Testimony:
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MR. FREDERICK: ... "I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons. I seldom carry one. ... I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses"
This should be required reading by all gun owners. It will help you understand the genesis of all the nations restrictions on firearms occurred -- the NRA.
Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters
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1968 Gun Control Act and the NRA
Plus to be honest, the only reason there was the a 1968 Gun Control Act is because the NRA supported its creation. Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI) actually drafted the 1968 bill and the NRA endorsed it.
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1968 General Franklin Orth, Executive Vice President of NRA, testifies before Congress in favor of the Gun Control Act (GCA'68) that "[NRA does] not think that any sane American, who calls himself an American, can object to placing into this bill the instrument which killed the president of the United States," /2/ (a ban on the mail-order sale of firearms). His statement of NRA support generates heated opposition from the (presumably insane) portion of the NRA membership, creating split between "sportsmen" and "hardliners."
2007: NRA's current position on machine gun ownership - your screwed.
Here is the transcript of NRA's spokesman Chris Cox on the CNN Glen Beck Show (October 5, 2007) showing stating:
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BECK: Chris, are you for fully automatic machine guns?
COX: We`ve never advocated fully automatic machine guns and Paul knows it. But, again, Glenn, this is very basic. It`s --
Who is Chris Cox?
Chris Cox is the 'Executive Director', the NRA Institute for Legislative Action , the political and lobbying arm of the National Rifle Association
What is interesting is that federal law allows for private ownership of machine guns for a qualified individual. However in 2007, the NRA (a supposed 2nd Amendment Rights organization) feels that you should not have that right. The NRA supported the creation of the 1934 NFA Act which put the restrictions on machine guns, short barrel rifles, short barrel shotguns in the first place.
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../05/gb.01.html
NRA-ILA :: Chris Cox's Political Report -- John Kerry and the Second Amendment
So why on God's green earth would firearm collectors want to support an organization that seems dedicated to removing an inalienable Right to own firearms?