And my reply would be "yes officer, I have a handgun on my right hip."
Exactly.
And my reply would be "yes officer, I have a handgun on my right hip."
haldir-how did the cop find out if he wasn't armed? Is there more to the story we aren't hearing? In a routine traffic stop: A)you are cited B)warned or C)let go. How did it go from that to shoved over the hood?
The shoved over the hood comes from LEOs that do not like armed civilians.
I just don't get pulled over!
kludge its not really a matter of his "actual" safety, but more his "perceived" safety.
Let's assume that he is 100% safe, as I am NOT going to shoot or assault him.
While I am seated in my car and my pistol is on my side, he cannot see it, and therefore he does not perceive danger. However, if he were to ask me to step out of the vehicle, there is a chance that my weapon could become exposed, at which point his "danger" response goes thru the roof. Or worse, I say nothing and he pats me down, to find a weapon on my side. Not only is he not going to be happy, but he will now feel like I am hiding something from him, when that is not the case.
This is something we tend to forget when we get buried in the details and rhetoric.
If we don't do things that attract the attention of the police, then we can avoid situations where deciding whether to "inform" or not becomes necessary.
They "recommend" it. I would have to agree.
On this issue as a firefighter I know many police officers and have asked them their opinion and they opinion is if you are pulled over when the officer walks up to your car:
1.Keep both hands in full view at all times
2.When you hand the officer your license -registration and proof of insurance place your permit on top so it is the first thing they look at
3.When asked tell the officer exactly what you have and where it is located,again make sure to keep both hands in full view.
Remember most of these guys are not the enemy they like us have a family they want to go home to when they clock out. They have to use extreme caution because there is a big increase in brain dead stupid idiots out there that are the ones that give the law abiding carriers a bad name! It has gotten to the point that real late at night in certain situations it would not surprise me to find a firefighter or two with something small concealed and I would not blame them!
I think a little common sense here goes a long way!
No, most officers are not the enemy, they have a hard job and I respect them. That being said, it is my objective to also get home to my family safely. And I think it's common sense to adapt as the situation changes. If I think I'm gonna get asked to step out or if there are weapons in the car, the officer will get told I have a weapon on my person. Otherwise, I'm not gonna say diddly about it, none of his business and it's safest in it's holster.
On this issue as a firefighter I know many police officers and have asked them their opinion and they opinion is if you are pulled over when the officer walks up to your car:
1.Keep both hands in full view at all times
2.When you hand the officer your license -registration and proof of insurance place your permit on top so it is the first thing they look at
3.When asked tell the officer exactly what you have and where it is located,again make sure to keep both hands in full view.
Remember most of these guys are not the enemy they like us have a family they want to go home to when they clock out. They have to use extreme caution because there is a big increase in brain dead stupid idiots out there that are the ones that give the law abiding carriers a bad name! It has gotten to the point that real late at night in certain situations it would not surprise me to find a firefighter or two with something small concealed and I would not blame them!
I think a little common sense here goes a long way!