North Korea Makes 85 Year Old "Confess" To His War Crimes

[Jludo]

Point #1, the US and N Korea are still at war.
Point #2 guy ran a very successful guerrilla group of Koreans that operated behind the N Korean lines.
Point #3 The group was the most successful behind the lines operation, and the N Koreans never forgot it.

American Held In North Korea Reportedly Oversaw Guerrilla Group In War : The Two-Way : NPR

Good read, interesting to hear the whole story.

 

[Waveraider]

The US is deporting 95 year old Naturalized Citizens to Isreal for trial, because they were Privates, or Seargants in the German Army stationed in Concentration Camps. I don't think this outcome will be good.

We need Ambadador Dennis Rodman to negociate his safe release. Trade Merrill Newman for Mily Cyrus!

 

[CarmelHP]

Aren't we a member of the all powerfull United Nations ? You know, that august body of world powers that have the ability to change world order. The organization that is heavily funded by the United States - that doesn't give a crap about U.S. policy. Let's let the U.N. impose sanctions on N. Korea. Oh, forgot that would also take an affirmative vote - which China, Russia, and an additional conglomerate of other third world countries headed by despots, dictators, and tyrants would fail to do.

I don't think the captured gentleman demonstrated very good common sense with his travel itinerary - especially if he expected the United States governmet to come to his aid if needed. I guess he should consider himself luckier than the U.S. diplomat that was murdered in Benghazi. We (the U.S.) handled that really well - with full and open disclosure !

Technically, the United Nations is still at war with North Korea.

 

[mrjarrell]

Well, the North Koreans got all they could out of him and they've released him. Can't wait to see who they kidnap next.

North Korea frees US war veteran | New York Post

 

[atvdave]

Glad to see he get's to come home.

 

[JettaKnight]

And worrying about their image?

That must be why they shoot across the dmz.
And make theats about artillery shelling.
And put commandos in mini subs and drop them off South's coast.

Hey, look who headed their PR firm for years?

 

[ghuns]

Perhaps to convince their own people that they are extremely vengeful, never forget, and have no fear of anyone, including us? Sounds like perfect mass intimidation to me.

Trying to ascribe rational explanations for the behavior of the irrational is an exercise in futility. NK does what it does because it's NK.

 

[cobber]

And worrying about their image?

That must be why they shoot across the dmz.
And make theats about artillery shelling.
And put commandos in mini subs and drop them off South's coast.

They probably still teach that the US conducted germ warfare in the North during the war. The first time I visited the military museum in Beijing (2006) even they had an exhibit on this. By 2008 they had pulled it down in favor of a glitzy display on the modern PLA (well, and the Olympics may have been a factor as well). DPRK is increasingly isolated.


I thought about taking a tour recently. Glad I passed up the opportunity to see wretched starving subjects.

Our own wretched subjects are spectacle enough...

 

[actaeon277]

Hey, look who headed their PR firm for years?

I was going to post the video "I'm so lonely" from Team America.
But due to language, you'll just have to look it up.
Funny.

 

[actaeon277]

Found one I could use.
[video=youtube;PHTVuP5P4ok]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHTVuP5P4ok[/video]

 

[printcraft]

............Trade Merrill Newman for Mily Cyrus!

NOOOOOO!!!!!

Forcing miley virus on the north koreans would be an act of war!

 

[perry]

I went to North Korea as a kid. We visited the DMZ and we could walk abut 15 feet in to North Korean territory while in one of the UN buildings that straddles the border. I've been across the border, so I count it on my list However, I don't believe I'd want to visit under normal, whatever that may be for that country, circumstances.

 

[Ruffnek]

Couldn't the US go in and rescue these hostages of which we speak?

 

[actaeon277]

Couldn't the US go in and rescue these hostages of which we speak?

Yes and no.
We could.
But it depends on if someone is willing to risk their political heinie.

Sending armed troops into another country, without their permission, is an act of war.
Yes we have done it before.

Not only the political side, but North Korea has a lot better anti-air capability than say Pakistan.

 

[Hookeye]

I say give the 85 yr old a Garand and let him finish his delayed cleanup.

 

[actaeon277]

Nothing. I don't understand what point you're trying to make. Holding an elderly man hostage does not make good PR. I'd imagine they have a reason.

Leader's uncle rose to No. 2 in North Korea
Among his "crimes" he is accused/convicted of......
"In its sharply worded character assassination, KCNA castigated Jang for "unwillingly standing up from his seat and half-heartedly clapping" when Kim received an important title."

Half heartedly clapping.


Yup, they must be worried about their image.

 

[jdmack79]

Leader's uncle rose to No. 2 in North Korea
Among his "crimes" he is accused/convicted of......
"In its sharply worded character assassination, KCNA castigated Jang for "unwillingly standing up from his seat and half-heartedly clapping" when Kim received an important title."

Half heartedly clapping.


Yup, they must be worried about their image.

That article isn't relevant to the old guy getting held hostage. I was correct when I said that "they have a reason." That reason turned out to be quite good. The elderly man had fought had trained guerrilla fighters to cause havoc behind enemy lines. Upon reentering North Korea he told his GOVERNMENT GUIDE that he wanted to contact KNOWN GUERRILLA FIGHTERS that he has trained 60 years ago.

Lets summarize: Enemy of NK trains people to be terrorists, 60 years elapse, same man attempts to reconnect with terrorists.

Their hostage taking seems to be making A LOT more sense.

 

[actaeon277]

That article isn't relevant to the old guy getting held hostage. I was correct when I said that "they have a reason." That reason turned out to be quite good. The elderly man had fought had trained guerrilla fighters to cause havoc behind enemy lines. Upon reentering North Korea he told his GOVERNMENT GUIDE that he wanted to contact KNOWN GUERRILLA FIGHTERS that he has trained 60 years ago.

Lets summarize: Enemy of NK trains people to be terrorists, 60 years elapse, same man attempts to reconnect with terrorists.

Their hostage taking seems to be making A LOT more sense.

North Korea said he wanted to contact.....
North Korea claims.... but I tend to disbelieve what they say on general principle, based on real world past experience.

The article is relevant, because you claimed they wouldn't do anything that would make them look bad.... bad PR.
Executing someone, and one of the charges is "not clapping enough" makes you (North Korea) look bad.

 

[jdmack79]

North Korea said he wanted to contact.....
North Korea claims.... but I tend to disbelieve what they say on general principle, based on real world past experience.

Wrong. Try reading. Here is an article to begin with: Korean War veteran Merrill Newman gives details of detention by Pyongyang - The Washington Post

According to Merrill Newman, the guy who was actually held hostage, he did try to contact individuals who he had trained to be terrorists in their nation.

Merrill Newman said, "...I innocently asked my North Korean guides whether some of those who fought in the war in the Mount Kuwol area might still be alive, and expressed an interest in possibly meeting them if they were."

 

[DragonGunner]

Wrong. Try reading. Here is an article to begin with: Korean War veteran Merrill Newman gives details of detention by Pyongyang - The Washington Post

According to Merrill Newman, the guy who was actually held hostage, he did try to contact individuals who he had trained to be terrorists in their nation.

Merrill Newman said, "...I innocently asked my North Korean guides whether some of those who fought in the war in the Mount Kuwol area might still be alive, and expressed an interest in possibly meeting them if they were."

Ya because a 85 yr. old man and a few who might still be alive at age 85 are planning to take over NK.......Rambo style.....Ya if I was NK I would be so terrified I wouldn't be able to sleep at night......What part of 85 yrs. old don't you understand.....LOL