N. Korea says it has final approval to nuke America

[The Bubba Effect]

China is not stupid or rash. They have no incentive to risk war with the US. They are winning the peace by a large margin.

I could see China stepping in and putting the screws to N Korea if N. Korea gets hands on with the us/allies.

It is my understanding that China is a bit touchy about it's international perception. Sorting out N Korea would give it credibility as a super power, both in ability and intention.

If China owed us money I would be worried, but since we owe them it's in their best interests to preserve the current situation.

I don't think China is a white knight. I just know they are not dumb or hotheaded. China is playing a long game.

 

[Jludo]

Just wait 'til night time and bomb the only place in North Korea with the lights on!

Hah that's pretty good

 

[RabbleRouser]

I believe North Korea has the second most submarines in the world. 1 less than the United States.

Not sure about the subs but North Korea DOES have the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in the world

 

[jdmack79]

The only reason that China is amassing troops near the border is to protect themselves. If the SHTF in North Korea the Chinese won't be helping to fight the Americans, they will be shooting the refugees trying to swim across the Yalu River.

The only thing that China is concerned about at this point is their own economic stability. So many young people are becoming of age to work that they need 7.5% annual growth of their economy in order to maintain the current employment rate. Thousands of NK refugees would reek havoc on Liaoning Province, the state bordering North Korea, and that is concerning because it is one of China's industrial centers. If there were lots of Koreans flooding the area the economy could be devastated. Those who are in power in China fear a poor economy and the instability that it would bring. Their leadership knows that there is little threat of insurrection when people have a job, car, and plenty of food.

The USA doesn't need to be worried about China responding to a Korean War by attacking us. We should be most concerned about what we are going to do with all of the refugees fleeing South once they realize it is their only option.

 

[Magnum]

 

[Thegeek]

Are you sure your name isn't "Pollyanna?"

Not trying to be a optimist. China's history and culture are well understood. They have the 100 year mindset. They really don't care if they have to kill millions of their own if they believe it's in the best interest of the future. I think the phrase "to make an omelette, you gotta break a few eggs" is probably a modern interpretation of an ancient Chinese proverb. What they do care about is money and power. If they go to war with us in the Korean peninsula, even if they win, they lose the cash flow of the trade agreements. Look at what it did to Cuba. China isn't a stupid country, they are very cold, and very calculated.

So what I said is an educated guess about China's strategy if violence should break out in the region.

 

[Expat]

The Chinese though also have that whole "face" thing. Will they worry they will lose face by not supporting their very long time friend and client state in NK? Will it look like they are bowing to evil Imperialists by being neutral? Will it make them look weak taking the economic side of the argument? I think we can slice China a dozen ways and come up with 13 ways to look at it.

 

[Thegeek]

It certainly won't be without some sort of spin.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

When it comes to fighting IMO , rule number one should be NEVER underestimate your enemy .

All those who say "we owe them too much money" or "they know better because it would mean annihilation for them " , keep rule # 1 in mind .

I have no doubt that we can whip any ONE nations behind in a war but this time around I doubt it will be us against one nation .

North Korea put " something " in orbit and as far as we know it's a satellite but how can we actually be sure of that ?

How can we be sure that it doesn't have some sort of nuclear device on it ?

China has already proven that it can destroy a satellite in space by blowing up one of their own . Did they fire a missile or was it an on board self destruct type thing ? I don't remember .

Not to mention all of the freight that comes into this country every day or that HAS came into this country , for all we know a nuke could already be here .

Russia and China are getting real chummy these days signing trade and mutual defense agreements and both hate our imperialistic , corporate ways .

Then you have the " wild cards " , the Iran's of the world who already have aligned themselves with both Russia and China .

Prayer blankets found in AZ desert anyone ?

It seems foolish to me that anyone with two working brain cells would think that it couldn't happen here .

In the big historical picture , we're (US) not much more than a blip on the screen so to speak .

We're less than 300 years old and in our arrogance seem to have forgotten that nation states have came and went .

 

[OneShotFOGE]

Not sure about the subs but North Korea DOES have the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in the world

I read this in a book recently. The book was a little dated but I believe you are correct. Their subs are not quite as state of the art as ours however.

 

[Grunt]

Gonna take a big catapult to get a nuke here from North Korea.

They got some subs, hopefully none able to launch nukes: Korean People's Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[NastyNate]

 

[LEaSH]

Nate WINS! Nate WINS!

something

 

[Dagoney22]

Someone should send feinstein over there to let them know nukes are bad....they should be illegal.

 

[RabbleRouser]

Someone should send feinstein over there to let them know nukes are bad....they should be illegal.

nukes are perfectly fine as long as they aren't attached to a deadly evil bunny killing puppy raping AR15 assault rifle

 

[RabbleRouser]

maybe we should just fight it out, i mean I don't wish for war but maybe a good ole two fisted slobber knocker will shake this country out if its lethargy and pry some politicians heads from the dark recesses of their own colons. and I can all but guarantee that if we were to be invaded by a country capable of fielding a ground army 1 million strong even the staunch anti-gunner will be grateful for an armed populace.

 

[zippy23]

NKorea has allies, China, who is allies with Iran and Russia, Russia has Rockets and loves to sell their technology especially to those who are OUR enemy. I get that NKorea is nuts, but they dont wanna blow themselves up, they arent muslims, so, i think they are talking like this because they have something to back it up, whether its china and russia and iran to help them out, or they do have a nuke that can reach the u.s. i've seen articles saying we dont "THINK" they have a rocket that can reach us, but nothing is for sure, and how would we know for sure? Do any of you actually think obama would take them out? I dont, his destruction of this country from the inside is almost complete, what better to top it off with a little destruction to get the people of the u.s. to do whatever he says in a time of being afraid of being blown up by a nuke? I think the libs welcome this opportunity for a crisis.

 

[hrearden]

From their established pattern of behavior, Id say they need food or some sort of manufactured goods. Mom never taught them to ask nicely.