This new engine on the Pan American and Sportster S are radical from a 45° V-twin HD stand point. People might start saying it doesn't sound Harley enough just like the V-rods and such. My bike weighs 750 lbs with a 103" S.E. engine yet my buddy's 350 lb Ducati Monster putting out 937ccs with 111 h.p. and way more torque than my bike. He eats my bike for a snack. He gets better gas mileage. He traded his custom Softtail Slim for it. I'm next unless I can score a Sportster S somehow. Just ride to be riding not washing the thing and polishing chrome. Meh. I've ridden on the street for 41 years. I'm over the whole brand thing. That's for sure!