Robert Richardson
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- Jan 28, 2009
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Wait…What.I sweep for a safety, there or not .
Also dont try to convince a woman of anything.
Mine wanted a J frame, above all else. Had her try one, THAT changed her mind.
I ripped a couple into the X at 21 ft.
So bought it for me.
Well, and just to honk her off LOL.
She is still without handgun. I aint buyin her one either. Adult, she can make her own decision/ purchase.
I can’t blame her for not liking the m&p shield 2.0, definitely not my favorite pistol out there, honestly I would agree and say some training courses to get her more comfortable around a gun with no safety would help immenselyMy wife’s first gun was a S&W Shield 2.0. She purchased the one with the manual safety. She hates the gun itself and we are looking for something else.
Recently i purchased a gen 4 g26. She says she doesnt like it because it doesnt have a manual safety. Regardless of all i have told her about her being the ultimate safety and if you dont have extensive training with manual safeties it could cost you your life due to forgetting to disengage the safety she is still adamant about it.
How do i get her away from the idea that manual safeties make the gun safer? She is severely limiting herself by only wanting a gun with a manual safety.
We talked about passive safeties but she says they are not enough. Said something like what if someone comes up and snatches my gun. I laugh and was like honey its concealed. People are not gonna know.
I need to get her in some training classes so she can get more comfortable. She was raised without guns being in the picture and then she met me….
Anyone got any advice for me here?
Yes. The couch is pretty comfy.Wait…What.
You took her shooting to show her what she doesn’t know and then showed off with the same gun. ????
One thing about the M9/92FS (and a few other similar guns) is the safety decocker on the slide.. if you don't remember to click it back up, it might as well be like the 1911.I carry my 92FS because I am confident in my ability to unholster and DA fire the first round quickly - I'm used to it (and my first pistol was a Browning BDM DA/SA). I have tried practicing drawing and flipping the safety with it, but my hands are smallish and I cannot disengage the safety on the 92 while drawing because my thumb can't reach far enough to fully switch it.
And why I like the 92FS, I leave the safety off all the time so it is always ready. That's part of my dilemma, I am now used to having the safety off and I'm afraid if I switch to a 1911 for EDC I won't have the necessary muscle memory to disengage the safety and I'm not comfortable/confident enough to carry a 1911 cocked but not locked so I just consider my 1911 a range/competition piece.One thing about the M9/92FS (and a few other similar guns) is the safety decocker on the slide.. if you don't remember to click it back up, it might as well be like the 1911.
My Beretta doesn't have a decocker, but does have a manual safety, this time on the frame. even though it is DA.
Sounds like someone who has been married awhile. The “have anyone else tell her” really hits home. The 12 year old at autozone can tell her something I have said for 5years and she will listen to him. HahaWhen in the history of human existence has a man ever convinced a woman of anything?
Serious suggestion:
- be glad she carries
- let her have what she is comfortable with without any comment
- let her become more comfortable over time (days, months, years, whatever)
- have any other human being in existence tell her the exact same reasons to get rid of the guns with manual safeties that you have brought up
- when she acts like this is the most brilliant thing ever said in recorded history, smile, agree with her, and know that she is one step closer to being better able to defend herself (with constant training)
@7hatGuy
So much of what each individual does is what one is comfortable with and trains with!
Just something I find helpful , with a 1911 my thumb rides the safety like a shelf giving my another point of contact on the gun. With a thumbs forward grip my thumb naturally takes the safety off and the pistol is ready to fire.
That being said I am so used to taking the safety off 1911 I sweep the "safety" off of any gun when I draw regardless.
Has your safety ever been engaged while you were carrying it? I had a 3rd gen Smith with a slide mounted safety/decocker. Multiple times when I would remove it for the night, the safety would have become engaged at some point in the day. I tried to adjust my draw to sweep it up every time but I never got to where I felt comfortable.And why I like the 92FS, I leave the safety off all the time so it is always ready. That's part of my dilemma, I am now used to having the safety off and I'm afraid if I switch to a 1911 for EDC I won't have the necessary muscle memory to disengage the safety and I'm not comfortable/confident enough to carry a 1911 cocked but not locked so I just consider my 1911 a range/competition piece.
It's too bad too because I love how a 1911 feels, handles and shoots and few other pistols have triggers that can match the awesomeness of my TRP out of the box.
My EDC is a 3rd gen S&W 5904, and I love that safety/decocker.Has your safety ever been engaged while you were carrying it? I had a 3rd gen Smith with a slide mounted safety/decocker. Multiple times when I would remove it for the night, the safety would have become engaged at some point in the day. I tried to adjust my draw to sweep it up every time but I never got to where I felt comfortable.
Do they make a 92 with a decocker only? That may be the answer.
I have a Beretta made leather holster for it and no, never unintentionally engaged the safety on it. The detent on it is very stout, So it’s not easy to accidentally engage it.Has your safety ever been engaged while you were carrying it? I had a 3rd gen Smith with a slide mounted safety/decocker. Multiple times when I would remove it for the night, the safety would have become engaged at some point in the day. I tried to adjust my draw to sweep it up every time but I never got to where I felt comfortable.
I'm sure a different holster could have helped but I didn't feel like spending a bunch of $50-$75 only to find out it didn't. I had two options. Find a decocker only model or sell it and buy something without a thumb safety.
I ended up with a XDs. Still my main EDC and love it.
Do they make a 92 with a decocker only? That may be the answer.