BehindBlueI's
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What is that number? How many have to be thrown before you cross that line? It's a standard that we don't apply to any other form of deadly force.
It actually is. Can you articulate you took the action you did to prevent serious bodily injury? IC basically divides injury in to "bodily injury", "moderate bodily injury", and "serious bodily injury." The burden is reasonably believes, not merely possibly. Reasonable test is going to include probability (like probable cause). Getting knocked out by random sumdood swinging at you is very rare, so it is not 'probably going to cause serious bodily injury.'
The holstered gun analogy is one I used for a reason. He has the capability to do serious bodily injury, but it hasn't progressed to the point of probably yet. Neither is a punch from sumdood absent some factors that would allow you to articulate otherwise. He's 60 lbs heavier than me, his nose appears to have been broken multiple times, I have a medical condition (documented) that makes a blow to the head much more dangerous to me, etc. etc. You need to be able to articulate those, though.
I seriously doubt much of INGO or society at large would support the police shooting everyone who physically fought with us. Take a swing, get shot and killed? Our rules are the same as yours except in one regard, which deals with affecting an arrest by deadly force and is more hypothetical than real because anytime it would apply your ability to defend a 3rd party would almost certainly apply equally.
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To add: There's also the "prevent a forcible felony", and being attacked by someone with a deadly weapon is also going to fall under forcible felonies.
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