Well, that video does it for me. I don't know who this guy is, but judging by his dress and constant hooker jokes, he is clearly a professional and the expert I need to take my gun purchase advice from for any future purchases. I now see that I have been wrong and the fact that every Kel-tec I have and have had, all of which have been flawless without the "fluff and buff", are trash and are complete anomalies. Three new guns of six broken on the first day at a range by this guy? I'm gonna have to call BS on that without actually seeing it. Anyone can claim something...
Ever see any threads about 1911's with problems? Heck I even press on with my Gen 4 Glocks even when a certain other Glock forum has thread after thread that claims them to be problem-riddled junk.
I'm not a Kel-tec "fanboy" as I'm sure at some point I'll be called. I just know that some of us who actually own some of these guns have found them to be exactly as advertised.
Sub2K, accepts the magazines you buy it to accept. Mine is S&W59's, others are Glock, Beretta, Sig.....and Ruger mags with slight mod. It is not a sniper's choice, but really handy to have piece of mind and mag/cartridge commonality with your sidearm
Better build quality, better quality assurance, and minor improvements with very little increase in cost.
As far as the mousegun varieties offered by both, I would not consider either to work "great" - just priced low enough that anyone can own one, small enough to carry every day, and hopefully good enough to get the job done when you need it.
The combination of affordability and size will make them continue to be popular - but anyone that is willing to spend more can obtain a more reliable firearm. Not everyone can, or chooses to - and any gun is better than no gun at all.
^^ The above is aimed at the P3AT/LCP & PF9/LC9 varieties - my experience with the subs and shotguns is too limited to criticize them harshly.
I have a Kel Tec PF9. I use it as my daily carry gun on an ankle holster! I have heard people having issues with theirs but I hav'nt had a problem with mine! Light weight and accurate at 7-10yrds. Deffinately not a range gun though. After about 30 rds or so my hand starts to hurt. Not bad for a $250 Gun!