Indiana Knife Law: stop the misinformation!

[Bob45]

Yes, Im very lucky to have those 3, they are all top of the line in that size knife, I cant decide which one I like best.

 

[cubby]

bump.

 

[ASP]

FOLKS-In direct dialogue with the Attorney General's Office, spring assited knives are illegal.

 

[cubby]

FOLKS-In direct dialogue with the Attorney General's Office, spring assited knives are illegal.

can you please direct to the law? assisted open knives are NOT illegal in indiana. i know political figures, police officers, and lawyers who will tell you other wise, but they are 200% LEGAL in indiana. ASSISTED knives, not automatics (sometimes wrongfully called "assisted").

 

[ASP]

Knife with blade that opens automatically or may be propelled
Sec. 2. It is a Class B misdemeanor for a person to manufacture, possess, display, offer, sell, lend, give away, or purchase any knife with a blade that:
(1) opens automatically; or
(2) may be propelled;
by hand pressure applied to a button, device containing gas, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32. Amended by P.L.70-2000, SEC.2.

Sorry it's not my call. The AG says they are illegal. I think the box/marts stopped selling them after it was televised.

 

[cubby]

yes, that is the law pertaining to AUTOS. it has been deemed not applicable to spring assisted knives. the spring must be released from pressure via a device like a button or a bolster, or lever.

all the box stores still sell assisted knives.

 

[ASP]

Well for grins contact the AG's office and ask them. I didn't make the rule. I used the same argument, but it didn't hold water. Best of luck.

 

[kevinj110]

Well I am reading the law and it says they are good to go. Just because the AG said it doesn't make it law the same way as just because a LEO says something doesn't necessarily mean its a law

 

[cubby]

Well I am reading the law and it says they are good to go. Just because the AG said it doesn't make it law the same way as just because a LEO says something doesn't necessarily mean its a law

yep.

but for grins i emailed the AG office. when they respond i'll post it here. hopefully they don't try to bull me and say its illegal, since the law is pretty clear.

 

[kevinj110]

yep.

but for grins i emailed the AG office. when they respond i'll post it here. hopefully they don't try to bull**** me and say its illegal, since the law is pretty clear.

I really can't wait to see what they say.

 

[cubby]

sorry about the four letter word up there. its gone.

 

[kevinj110]

Any word on what they said???

 

[cubby]

no word yet. but its legal by state law. districts, townships, and cities may have ordances in place which ban them. but the STATE law allows them.

 

[Cygnus]

cubby, ASP,

I'll end it here for you guys. Assuming the codes are listed in the thread correctly, the part about the "springs" and the "handle" refer ONLY to propelled blades.

The "OR" in the code refers to 2 separate things.

1. An automatic knife

and

2. A propelled knife.

A spring assisted knife is not "automatic".

A "propelled" blade can't be propelled by a spring or other device in the handle.

IANAL but I have an "inner attorney"

Hey, don't we have a member called "knife lawyer?"

 

[kevinj110]

I have friends who are in Law school at IU and they said that was their take on it. But they are not lawyers either.

 

[ASP]

FELLOW READERS. I HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN BY RELATING THIS INFORMATION.
I’M NOT SELLING ANYTHING, LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OR FRIENDSHIP. I’M MERELY RELAYING TO YOU COLLECTIVELY WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME. I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT THE WAY THE LAW USED TO BE WRITTEN WOULD EXCLUDE ASSIST STYLE KNIVES, THE LAW NOW DOESN’T.

Sec. 2. It is a Class B misdemeanor for a person to manufacture, possess, display, offer, sell, lend, give away, or purchase any knife with a BLADE that:


CONDITION A)
(1) opens automatically; OR
CONDITION B)
(2) may be PROPELLED;
Options begin----------
OPTION #1: by hand pressure applied to a button
OPTION #2: device containing gas
OPTION #3: SPRING
OPTION #4: or other device
Options end----------
in the handle of the knife.
SO (HIS POSITION WAS) AN ASSISTED KNIFE HAS A BLADE THAT IS PROPELLED BY A SPRING IN THE HANDLE OF THE KNIFE.
LET’S SEE WHAT “THEIR” ANSWER IS. HOPEFULLY IT WON’T BE LIKE THE IRS WHERE ANSWERS TODAY MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS TOMORROW.

 

[Pale Rider]

FELLOW READERS. I HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN BY RELATING THIS INFORMATION.
I’M NOT SELLING ANYTHING, LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OR FRIENDSHIP. I’M MERELY RELAYING TO YOU COLLECTIVELY WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME. I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT THE WAY THE LAW USED TO BE WRITTEN WOULD EXCLUDE ASSIST STYLE KNIVES, THE LAW NOW DOESN’T.

Sec. 2. It is a Class B misdemeanor for a person to manufacture, possess, display, offer, sell, lend, give away, or purchase any knife with a BLADE that:


CONDITION A)
(1) opens automatically; OR
CONDITION B)
(2) may be PROPELLED;
Options begin----------
OPTION #1: by hand pressure applied to a button
OPTION #2: device containing gas
OPTION #3: SPRING
OPTION #4: or other device
Options end----------
in the handle of the knife.
SO (HIS POSITION WAS) AN ASSISTED KNIFE HAS A BLADE THAT IS PROPELLED BY A SPRING IN THE HANDLE OF THE KNIFE.
LET’S SEE WHAT “THEIR” ANSWER IS. HOPEFULLY IT WON’T BE LIKE THE IRS WHERE ANSWERS TODAY MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS TOMORROW.

Tell that to Wal-mart, Dick's, Gander Mt., Meijer, Dunhams, Don's, Pop Guns, The PX (Fort Ben & Atterbury), Pilot (exit 34 on I-69N), MC sports (Muncie).... and the list goes on... There was a scare (a year ago?) when most of these stores pulled assisted knives from their shelves, but after a mere week they were returned. I know what you were told, but just because thats how one knucklehead reads the law doesn't mean in that's how it will always be enforced.

 

[kevinj110]

I know it seems silly to base something being legal to own on who sells it but I hardly believe these stores would sell them, and they do. If there was any chance of them being illegal. I mean Wal-Mart has one of the largest law teams in the world.

 

[yotewacker]

I think the word propelled means to shoot. Russia was selling knives at gun shows that had a very strong spring. It would shoot the blade hard enough, that at 10ft it would stick it in a 2x4. I saw one once and was told it was Russia military Issue

 

[cubby]

FELLOW READERS. I HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN BY RELATING THIS INFORMATION.
I’M NOT SELLING ANYTHING, LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OR FRIENDSHIP. I’M MERELY RELAYING TO YOU COLLECTIVELY WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME. I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT THE WAY THE LAW USED TO BE WRITTEN WOULD EXCLUDE ASSIST STYLE KNIVES, THE LAW NOW DOESN’T.

Sec. 2. It is a Class B misdemeanor for a person to manufacture, possess, display, offer, sell, lend, give away, or purchase any knife with a BLADE that:


CONDITION A)
(1) opens automatically; OR
CONDITION B)
(2) may be PROPELLED;
Options begin----------
OPTION #1: by hand pressure applied to a button
OPTION #2: device containing gas
OPTION #3: SPRING
OPTION #4: or other device
Options end----------
in the handle of the knife.
SO (HIS POSITION WAS) AN ASSISTED KNIFE HAS A BLADE THAT IS PROPELLED BY A SPRING IN THE HANDLE OF THE KNIFE.
LET’S SEE WHAT “THEIR” ANSWER IS. HOPEFULLY IT WON’T BE LIKE THE IRS WHERE ANSWERS TODAY MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS TOMORROW.

his "position" can be want ever he wants. but the fact is the law is written the way it is written. option #3 only applies to "propelled"blades.