Look at all the Old School Dogs out on this thread.
~What I would pay to see the Seniors (Slough - CM), Junior (Nate), Brains (Vette), Pro (Phylo), Experienced (AVB11), and all the rest of you hooligans on the 1K line of Atterbury KD-6.
Is it open to the public?
Atterbury would be a lot faster/easier for me to get to than Rockcastle.
You can juice up the 6.5 Creedmoor but the 140 ELD is an excellent bullet...but the 300WM can be stepped on quite a bit with H1000/Retumbo/etc and loaded with the 225gr ELD-M or a 215/230gr Berger Hybrid and really have some arse to 1500yd+.
Phylo: I appreciate that. I don't know if I belong in that crowd or not, but I try to only pass along truth or what I believe is closest to it.
John, have you been down there since KD6 had a couple three hundred thousand of the NRA's pizza money put into improving the 600-1,000 berms? Man, it is a world of difference better. It's a legitimate 50-point 1,000 yardline.
What this thread needs is a meet and greet at one of these 1,000 yard lines. It sounds like there are several here that can spread the knowledge they have gained, to those of us that would love to learn it.
And there's another item we have mostly neglected.
SOME bullets do fairly well beyond their sonic range. An example that comes to mind is the .30 208 AMAX which, especially when over-twisted through an 8-twist, can be made to track well through transsonic and several hundred yards subsonic.
The obvious is also true that most bullets do not behave that way.
I have done well for groups with bullets that were right AT Mach 1 or 1.05, but it's not to be relied upon below about 1250.
Finally, and this is a big one at Atterbury, if you are not averaging 1,200 with a reasonable SD over the berm, you WILL lose shots that the sonic sensors can't hear, even if they were down the middle.
I know this well due to the limitations I impose on myself with a 20" tube.
Sounds like you're in charge of organizing this, then. Thanks for stepping up!I know the people needed to make that happen. I think there are a LOT of INGO members that would jump at that opportunity.
Sounds like you're in charge of organizing this, then. Thanks for stepping up!
I have no expectations of shooting a mile, but I would like to get to 1,000.
You nailed it.The only thing is, and it's a big un: unless a guy has some familiarity with long(er) range in open country, parking the car at 1,000 is not the place to start. You are likely to leave feeling beaten up ( though we all do from time-to-time).
But I'd be totally for an LR or MR or Course clinic, class, whatever...down at Atterbury.
-Nate
I haven’t looked that closely at 6.5, is it a real contender? I’m slightly hesitant to jump into a “newer” caliber.
I'll post the 2018 CIHPRS schedule after we have our BOD meeting next Saturday but essentially the last weekend of every month (March through Sept.) is a 3x1000 on Saturday and a Palma on Sunday.
Regarding the 6.5 Creedmore it is a .260 Remington with a different case shape and the Creedmore marketing department behind it. Performance is no different than that of the .260. Essentially the CM cartridges are just their versions of the .243, .260 and 7mm-08. With a 30" barrel your going to get around 2,850fps with a 142gr SMK. Which is about 100fps slower than where the 6.5x284's like to shoot. Is it ballistically with the .243, 284 Win, 6.5x284, 280 Rem, 7mm RSAUM no, but you're not super handicapped either. If you want one cartridge to shoot course/mid/long the .260/6.5x47/6.5CM all work just fine. However the 6.5CM doesn't have all the super powers that some associate to it, just has a good marketing/hype machine pushing it.