Kirk Freeman
Grandmaster
When do you blow kisses? You left the part about blowing kisses off of your list.
You may blow kisses at any time. Thus my confusion over "expressionless". How can it be expressionless when you are blowing kisses?
When do you blow kisses? You left the part about blowing kisses off of your list.
*jagee pulled over on motorcycle for speeding (25 then 35, on up as going out of town on country road)
Cop: do you know why I pulled you over?
Jagee: I was probably going too fast too soon.
Cop: yeah...do you have any weapons or anything you?
Jagee: pocket knife in front pocket, pistol on right hip.
Cop: ok, I'm going to take it off of you for both of our safety.
Jagee: *moves hand/arm out of the way.
Cop: *removes pistol from holster, takes back to car and clears it
Stop goes smoothly from there. He was jealous I was out riding and he was at work. Commented the he also carries a Shield when not on duty. Brought back empty gun slide locked back, mag, and the +1 loose. Put all that in the saddle bag. I picked it up, loaded it, re-holstered, went on my way with ticket for speeding.
So you're advocating reprogramming the officer's data terminal to allow for a rescue.The only way to win is not to play.
So you're advocating reprogramming the officer's data terminal to allow for a rescue.
Got it.
(Kobayashi Maru reference implied.)
So you're advocating reprogramming the officer's data terminal to allow for a rescue.
Got it.
(Kobayashi Maru reference implied.)
Is he? Fascinating.
He still gave you a citation? What a ****. ISP?
... Cop: ok, I'm going to take it off of you for both of our safety. ...
*jagee pulled over on motorcycle for speeding (25 then 35, on up as going out of town on country road)
Cop: do you know why I pulled you over?
Jagee: I was probably going too fast too soon.
Cop: yeah...do you have any weapons or anything you?
Jagee: pocket knife in front pocket, pistol on right hip.
Cop: ok, I'm going to take it off of you for both of our safety.
Jagee: *moves hand/arm out of the way.
Cop: *removes pistol from holster, takes back to car and clears it
Stop goes smoothly from there. He was jealous I was out riding and he was at work. Commented the he also carries a Shield when not on duty. Brought back empty gun slide locked back, mag, and the +1 loose. Put all that in the saddle bag. I picked it up, loaded it, re-holstered, went on my way with ticket for speeding.
What garbage. There is no cause to remove those items. Or even ask about them.
Endless threads on INGO are generated regarding individuals carrying handguns and police interactions during traffic stops.
Let's go over how to mitigate our risks of being stopped and how to handle traffic stops.
1. Clean your vehicle. Keep your car clean and organized. Stop throwing filth inside your car. Your mommy is not coming to clean it out. Clean it up and wipe it down with Lysol wipes, etc.
Keep the outside of your car clean. There is a distinction between filth and honest dirt from the jobsite (masons, construction, plumbers, electriicians, etc.), the cops can tell the difference.
2. Keep your vehicle in good repair. Replace the broken, cracked stuff. Pick a Saturday a month and ensure that everything works.
3. Keep your papers in order. I use the big Ziplock bags. Everything goes in there in the glove box, not scattered over the four corners of the earth and your vehicle. Keep your stuff together.
Exactly. He should be filing a complaint and/or retaining legal council to prevent their department from abusing people in the future.
That would be a waste of money. Those actions a well within the powers of LE. If you ever want that to change, you're not going to find much help from a PD. You're just going to have to outright sue.
That's why I said and/or legal council. I don't think it's "well within the powers of LE" to disarm people without a good reason. Being scared of guns isn't a good reason. Plus, lets be honest, I bet 99% of the time they run the serial number and are just fishing for a stolen gun. But yeah, I get it, PD complaints are a waste of time. They get filed and no one cares.
Well, we're waiting, "just be quite" what?Stop trying to go for the head pat. Just be quite,
Well, we're waiting, "just be quite" what?
That's why I said and/or legal council. I don't think it's "well within the powers of LE" to disarm people without a good reason. Being scared of guns isn't a good reason. Plus, lets be honest, I bet 99% of the time they run the serial number and are just fishing for a stolen gun. But yeah, I get it, PD complaints are a waste of time. They get filed and no one cares.