You need to google "within"
Im not the one who brought up using it as a self defense weapon, and have not been fighting this "cause" you so doggedly debunk.
But If something is brought up, that doesnt make sense, I usually try to show the other side of the argument, and maybe make it easier for the closed minded, to at least see beyond their own opinion.
You on the other hand, strike me as the type to get consumed by the goal of "winning the argument" thus will most likely not look past your own opinion, or if you did, you wouldnt reveal it to us, yet continue to fight for your previous opinion, in pursuit of your goal of victory by attrition..
You will "win" this argument, not because your right, but because people will just get tired of futile fighting.
+1 for logic and thoughtfulness.