When I met my current spouse (1980) and we decided to make a life together these issues were coming to focus even then. The general state of society, Governing bodies in it for personal gain, on and on. I did not want to bring children into the mess I saw forming. She disagreed. Turns out I was a visionary.
That the electorate sits on its duff (enough to give us this mess) just confirms my opinions on the general population. Lazy comes to mind.
I went off on a bit of a rant yesterday and was set straight by another Mod. He was right. Getting mad will not fix this as it only solidify's these people in their beliefs when it is smashed into their faces. Kind of like a petulant child.
Now.....................how do we fix this. seriously. Can it be fixed. It has been forming up since the hippies marched in the late 60's. Those nuts are in charge now.
45 years of back sliding socially. That is not fixed over night or in 1 election cycle. I am facing 66 years on this planet come March. When my time ends and those middle aged positive thinkers pass on what will happen then. The mindset of so many young folks is very socialist leaning. I feel the life cycle of this nation is nearing its end as we "Knew" it.
So selling a gun with the box will be a thing of the past? Almost everyone wants the box with a pistol.
I have one question. How will they know if a person involved in private sales has sold more than an arbitrary number they come up with? Meaning how do they intend to keep track of that and enforce it?
I went off on a bit of a rant yesterday and was set straight by another Mod. He was right. Getting mad will not fix this as it only solidify's these people in their beliefs when it is smashed into their faces. Kind of like a petulant child.
If one change can be made that will wake the masses up it is eliminate income tax withholding.
Make everyone write a check to the government quarterly or monthly.
You would see sweeping & massive changes in government within 1 year.
What you saw going on is infuriating. When you read more and more of it, it started that slow boil we all feel a-rolling, and the more you read, the madder you got. Whichever of us it was that cooled you down didn't change the reasons to get mad. Now, though... now you get to put that anger working in a direction.
Long and short of this post with all it's mixed metaphors is this: You're angry. All of you are angry, when you see what we've allowed to happen. Find a direction and put that anger to use by blowing away a problem, figuratively speaking. Find your own problem to address. Mine is Constitutional Carry and an end to state-level and lower "gun-free zones". That's not to exclude anyone- Lord knows I can't win that battle alone! I'm just saying that's where I'm focusing my efforts.
H.L. Mencken once said, "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
I don't think we need to be so violent about it, but for me, that time is now and my target is bad laws... THOSE throats, I'll happily slit, figuratively speaking.
Let's quit being firecrackers in open palms and get to work.
Blessings,
Bill
No problem. "Hey, since you're buying that gun, I also have a box that just happens to be from the same manufacturer. The gun fits in it like it was made for it... I'll throw that in with it at no extra cost, if you want it."
"What? Is it the original packaging? Who knows? I took the gun out of the original box like I do all my guns when I get them, and just happens I kept this box and this gun fits in it. If you want it, it's yours."
Getting mad will not fix this as it only solidify's these people in their beliefs when it is smashed into their faces. Kind of like a petulant child.
Now.....................how do we fix this. seriously.
Getting mad will not fix this as it only solidify's these people in their beliefs when it is smashed into their faces. Kind of like a petulant child.
I disagree. Anger is energy and energy can be directed into positive actions aimed at fixing what is wrong. Channeled correctly, it is FAR better than apathy (utter lack of energy), which has got us where we are now.
It's curious why he's doing this his last year in office, when his party is on the outs in Congress? Haven't the libs questioned why he didn't push for this earlier? Assuming for the sake of argument that he actually cared...
If one change can be made that will wake the masses up it is eliminate income tax withholding.
Make everyone write a check to the government quarterly or monthly.
You would see sweeping & massive changes in government within 1 year.
Having recently finished "Gun Control in the Third Reich" I'd have to say what comes next is not going to be good. Once they know where they are all they need is a political reason to disarm their enemies. If you go for that then you will be forced to comply with everything else...or else. The people who put their 'common sense gun laws' into effect thought that it might be a bad idea if some radical elements got ahold of the information...
With the current Tyranny of the Bureaucracies that we are living under, combining charitable giving information from the IRS, groups associated with from the NSA, and weapons ownership from the BATFE would be easy enough when it comes time to send out the armed squads for the politically incorrect.
There is no functioning reason to track all the guns if you don't intend to come and take them at some point. Tracking them stops no crime...even if the criminals would allow you to track theirs and I'm guessing stolen guns won't be coming up on the registry. If they could track the illegal ones (and they can't) they might be able to stop the next crime...but that is not the desired outcome here. It is power and control.
This is an honest, not a baiting question. Do you really believe that? How many are paying vs receiving now? If a person is not paying would that person care?
This is an honest, not a baiting question. Do you really believe that? How many are paying vs receiving now? If a person is not paying would that person care?
I guess we can take solace in the knowledge New Year's resolutions usually fail...
Obama Reveals New Year?s Resolution ? and It has Everything to Do With Guns | TheBlaze.com
DO IT FOR THE KIDS!!!!! WHAT?! YOU DON'T WANT KIDS TO BE SAFE?!?!?!
DO IT FOR THE KIDS!!!!! WHAT?! YOU DON'T WANT KIDS TO BE SAFE?!?!?!
With respect, I feel these people are as "solid" in their "belief" as they can be. Like Dave says, there isn't any reasoning with these people.
And +1 for Mencken. Here's a critique of gun control from 1925: The Uplifters Try It Again | Foundation for Economic Education
Just to clarify.......Getting "Kick Someone in the junk" mad and sounding off in here is not the answer.
Anger feeds anger and generates more visceral responses.
What has kept this thread on track is the lack of those who fit into the mold I describe. They have not found reason to get involved so no clear targets have been offered up. Most everyone involved is like minded.
That said, yes, I am kick someone in the junk mad I just am not sure who to start with right now. Like Bill stated (on point as always) focus the energy where it will matter. I have had so many extensive conversations with decent people that are left/lib leaning and 90% of them was a waste of energy. The 10% (est) that I did get out to the range have for the most part crossed over. They still vote for the same people but behind closed doors admit some of that thinking is flawed.
There is still much to do.
I do see the media as complicit in all of this. They are now tools of the same big money that runs the politico's and there fore the country.