Gun Value Help (Pic Heavy)

[sgreen3]

My uncle gave me a bunch of black powder guns after needing to move into an assisted living home and had to sell his house.. I have no idea what they are worth and just wondering if any of you guys might know anything about them. Pic an discription of each one as follows. Thanks for any input fellas, greatly appreciated!

Im sure there not real old but they are kind of neat, they all have serial numbers in them. So I would think they would be worth something.

This one says " Derringer Philadelphia" Dikar Spain .45cal

An this one says "Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc." . .50cal

The only thing this one says is "Jukar Spain"

This one also says "Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc."

This one also says "Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc." on it, but doesnt say anything about caliber or anything. Has "CVA" stamped into the metal next to the trigger. Has some really nice etchings on the wheel as you can see in the pic.

On the barrel on this rifle says "Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc." "Spain" .50cal

An gave me this big knife, Im not really into knives but its pretty neat.

 

[Don]

That rifle looks like a thompson center sennica. .45 or .50 cal. Dunno what it's worth, but my grandfather has one in .45 with a cracked stock.

 

[jackadew]

CVA was founded in 1971, I think they made all those models up until early to mid 90's. CVA was and still is a cheaper brand...but they always seemed to shoot well. Tradition's still makes many of those same models and are on about the same par. BassPro still sells some of them, here is a link if you want to see what they sell for new. Black Powder Guns - Rifles & Pistols | Bass Pro Shops I'm guessing the ones marked Dikar Spain was originaly sold as kits. Just a guess, but there was lots of them sold in the 70's and 80's.

 

[sgreen3]

Ah ok, Thanks for the info Jack

 

[jackadew]

One more thing...you may want to check and see if they are loaded by running the ramrod down the barrel and mark it and then check to see along the outside of the barrel to make sure it went to the bottom of the barrel. From the outside of the guns it looks like your Uncle took very good care of them, but its common for muzzleloaders to miss fire and get put away and forgotten about.

 

[sgreen3]

None of them have ever been fired, they were wall hangers. They got wiped off an oiled once a year, lol

 

[Mgderf]

I believe even those CVA's could have been sold as "kit-guns", but by the looks of them I would guess not.

If they were kits, your uncle put a lot of work into them.

 

[sgreen3]

Yea they are in real nice condition. Not even so much as a scratch in any of the wood.

 

[jackadew]

A place to sell or get a better idea of their value would be Friendship, In. during the spring or fall National Muzzleloader Shoot. If you have been you know what i'm talking about. If not its something everyone should go to at least once. Huge Muzzleloader only section that you have to pay to get in to, and the whole town turns into a gaint fleamarket. Next National shoot is June 9th-17th. NMLRA - Visit Friendship, Indiana

 

[sgreen3]

Ok thanks Jack, I may have to go check it out.

 

[Duce]

That Big Knife may be a Western Bowie, with the plaque and condition it mat be worth as much as some of the firearms.......Duce<><

 

[sepe]

I've got one of the Philadelphia Derringer kits that I haven't completed yet. I've seen some on auction sites for around $120. I've got a rifle like the .50, pretty sure the same kit. I've seen some of those around $150, which makes me happy as I paid quite a bit less for one in great condition.

As already mentioned, if he bought kits and did the fitting and finish work...he did a great job.

 

[sgreen3]

That Big Knife may be a Western Bowie, with the plaque and condition it mat be worth as much as some of the firearms.......Duce<><

Yea that plaque says " Authintic Bowie Knife Circa 1840" Then on th eknife its self says Weastern Bowie USA. Its in pretty nice shape needs cleaned but I dont want to mess it up.

 

[sgreen3]

I've got one of the Philadelphia Derringer kits that I haven't completed yet. I've seen some on auction sites for around $120. I've got a rifle like the .50, pretty sure the same kit. I've seen some of those around $150, which makes me happy as I paid quite a bit less for one in great condition.

As already mentioned, if he bought kits and did the fitting and finish work...he did a great job.

Im gonna try an find out some more info from him this week, and see if they were kit guns or what. But it does seem like I remember my mom saying that he did put them together.