What safe do you have?After seeing a few pictures from a customer yesterday, I will never own a Liberty, Cannon, Stack On, or any other cheap safe. The gentleman had a high end Liberty safe broken into by thiefs. They simply cut the door completely off of the safe. It was amazing to see how thin the steel is on the door and front of a big name gun safe. The police told him that they think a Sawzall was used to cut the door off.
After seeing a few pictures from a customer yesterday, I will never own a Liberty, Cannon, Stack On, or any other cheap safe. The gentleman had a high end Liberty safe broken into by thiefs. They simply cut the door completely off of the safe. It was amazing to see how thin the steel is on the door and front of a big name gun safe. The police told him that they think a Sawzall was used to cut the door off.
After seeing a few pictures from a customer yesterday, I will never own a Liberty, Cannon, Stack On, or any other cheap safe. The gentleman had a high end Liberty safe broken into by thiefs. They simply cut the door completely off of the safe. It was amazing to see how thin the steel is on the door and front of a big name gun safe. The police told him that they think a Sawzall was used to cut the door off.
After seeing a few pictures from a customer yesterday, I will never own a Liberty, Cannon, Stack On, or any other cheap safe. The gentleman had a high end Liberty safe broken into by thiefs. They simply cut the door completely off of the safe. It was amazing to see how thin the steel is on the door and front of a big name gun safe. The police told him that they think a Sawzall was used to cut the door off.
Libertys aren't exactly cheap safes, it is according to what model he had also, if he had a cheap $300-$500 safe then what exactly did he expect. And I don't believe for a second someone could simply cut a higher end safe with a sawzall. That would eat up a lot of blades and a lot of time. And if by some miracle they did it a higher end one with a sawzall, I would definitely like to know what type of battery they used. Also if your unfamiliar with liberty safes you may actually want to take a look at one, not only would they have had to cut a good 3-4" at the top of the door just to cut through the 1"thick steel locking bolts but they would also have to cut through the dead bolts on the right side of the safe, Then the ones on the left, and then cut through the ones at the bottom, I don't know of any sawzall battery that could last that long, nor a blade that could hold up (they could use multiple blades, but then there is also the plate of steel to cut through to get to the bolts. All of this to "cut the door off" maybe an industrial size cutting wheel, but not a sawzall.
I believe it comes with a key to manually open/unlock it
As always, remember most safes will not hold as many guns as they claim. If your long guns are scoped, figure about 1/2 what they claim.
Yep! I work at Menards, and I can assure you, this 40 gun safe will not hold 40 guns, unless it's all pistols. It's a decent size, but doubt you could cram in 40 guns.
I would assume that Liberty is assuming some fault for the break in since they gave him a voucher for a free new safe.
Do you have any safes with scratches or dents at your store? I remember awhile back people were getting some safes like that at Menards for a really low price because of a little damage.
my liberty doesn't have that much space around the door, I guess I could see them using a pry bar, but I believe it would still be extremely difficult to cut the locking bolts with a sawzall. The independence models do have very thin steel, I didn't mean the bolts were 3-4" inches, I meant the over all thickness of the door, sorry for the confusion.Many Liberty safes have a massive gap around the doors. From the picture he showed me, it looked like a pry bar was inserted into the top corner of the door. A hole was punctured through the steel that allowed the saw to enter. If you think that the steel is 3-4" thick at the top of your Liberty safe, you're crazy. Look inside the safe at the edge of the metal. It is VERY thin. Most of the thickness you see is the fire board. When a thief isn't worried about making a lot of noise or taking a little while, it's apparently pretty easy to cut the door off of a Liberty. I would assume that Liberty is assuming some fault for the break in since they gave him a voucher for a free new safe.
Here is a cutaway of the door on a Liberty Safe:
Libertys aren't exactly cheap safes, it is according to what model he had also, if he had a cheap $300-$500 safe then what exactly did he expect. And I don't believe for a second someone could simply cut a higher end safe with a sawzall. That would eat up a lot of blades and a lot of time. And if by some miracle they did it a higher end one with a sawzall, I would definitely like to know what type of battery they used. Also if your unfamiliar with liberty safes you may actually want to take a look at one, not only would they have had to cut a good 3-4" at the top of the door just to cut through the 1"thick steel locking bolts but they would also have to cut through the dead bolts on the right side of the safe, Then the ones on the left, and then cut through the ones at the bottom, I don't know of any sawzall battery that could last that long, nor a blade that could hold up (they could use multiple blades, but then there is also the plate of steel to cut through to get to the bolts. All of this to "cut the door off" maybe an industrial size cutting wheel, but not a sawzall.
C4?If I was going to break into a safe I would not even think of cutting the bolts or cutting the door off. Im not going to say how I would do it but after looking at how all gun safes Ive seen are built there are much easier ways.