Greenwood mall shooting

[rosejm]

I nominate that this active shooter scenario be called the "Dickens Drill."

Engage target once at 40 yards (or whatever the distance was.)
Close with target while firing and motioning for bystanders to move or get down.
One mag, no mag change unless malfunction.

Don't forget relocation of loved one.

From the seated position, concealed.
Par time - 15s

 

[manifest destiny]

Engages threat with a pistol at 40yd +/-, moving towards the threat, hits 8 of 10. Dang! His grandfather taught him well.

 

[jwamplerusa]

Suspect was probably waiting in the restroom, trolling the news for report that his apartment blew up

@indyjs There may be more truth to that than you might suspect. If you planned your "going out party" and wanted to maximize the damage, an excellent option would be a distraction.

Destroy evidence and draw the GPD and GFD toward your hootch a mile away. Then go on your murderous spree. A butane cylinder going off in an oven and causing an apartment fire would have captured the attention of both the Police and EMS. All the better to allow the POS time to raise the body count.

I want to know what is on the phone and computer. I have a suspicion this POS was more cunning and determined than the average whack job shooter (e.g. Highland Park). I have a feeling when stuff is recovered from the electronics, there are going to be some very disturbing and chilling discoveries.

My question will be, did he have help? I don't like where the above scenario can lead from a motives perspective.

 

[HoosierLife]

I’ve not seen this anywhere, but my wife swears she heard he was at Blondie’s Cookies with his girlfriend.

 

[littletommy]

I’ve not seen this anywhere, but my wife swears she heard he was at Goldie’s Cookies with his girlfriend.

I remember hearing he was at the cookie counter.

 

[foszoe]

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Is it posting that like copyright infringement on JSCR?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Is it posting that like copyright infringement on JSCR?

I don't think he created it, but it sure does come in handy enough that I saved it to my computer!

 

[Shadow01]

Dicken is a ****ing stud.

15 seconds to react to a deadly situation and still made an 80% hit rate from a considerable distance.

And I was given grief by some for questioning the hit rate of the trained police that shot over 90 rounds…

 

[KG1]

The suspect was dead before the first 911 call.


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This is just proof that an armed citizen that was on the scene when it was going down like Eli Dicken was thee first responder that had the ability to immediately engage and neutralize a threat before LE could get there and it saved countless lives in the interim.

Nothing against LE because they do the best that they can to get there as soon as they can but in all cases every minute can count. That is why we all need to be prepared to be our own first responder if need be and we should not be restricted from taking that role, by government regulation of our Constitutional right to bear arms for self-defense and as an added bonus in this case in doing so that right defended others. This is an ultimate example of exercising a natural right affirmed by the 2nd Amendment the way it was meant to be and why it shall not/must not be infringed.

 

[rooster]

I nominate that this active shooter scenario be called the "Dickens Drill."

Engage target once at 40 yards (or whatever the distance was.)
Close with target while firing and motioning for bystanders to move or get down.
One mag, no mag change unless malfunction.

Make a good stage for uspsa or other competitions…..

“Shooter must engage target while continuing to move forward to slide lock”

 

[HoosierLife]

I remember hearing he was at the cookie counter.

She found it.

 

[JCSR]

Is it posting that like copyright infringement on JSCR?

It's all good. Anything for Uncle Jim!

 

[foszoe]

This is the door at Top Guns in Terre Haute:

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Are they still open?

 

[BigRed]

Yeah, it is likely GFM will cancel that fund raiser once they are made aware of it. Follows with what they did to Rittenhouse.

Yep.
GFM can go GFI

 

[DoggyDaddy]

It's all good. Anything for Uncle Jim!

Slight sidetrack, but there was another "shots fired" incident in Onyx (formerly Classy Chassy) either last night or the night before. That crap never went on in the Classy.

 

[BigRed]

Isn't this already a standard argument in court cases, especially in civil court? You're damned either way.

No training = "A novice gun owner incapable of making appropriate decisions about the use of lethal force"
Training = "A bloodthirsty gun nut itching for an opportunity to become a hero by shooting someone"

Similarly, hollowpoint or any other even slightly special round in your EDC = "Armed with special purpose man-killer bullets and again itching to kill someone at the first opportunity". Ball ammo = "Only prepared for a day at the range, not a self defense scenario - ergo, it wasn't self defense"

There is no winning these sorts of arguments with these sorts of people, only degrees of losing. Oh, and the verdict, if a criminal case...

Remember that homo prosecutor in Kenosha trying to make something of the common ammo the Kenosha Kid had?

Such ***holes are pathetic.

 

[BigRed]

Slight sidetrack, but there was another "shots fired" incident in Onyx (formerly Classy Chassy) either last night or the night before. That crap never went on in the Classy.

Discharge at a strip club?

Maybe the strippers are hotter now?

 

[BigRed]

The suspect was dead before the first 911 call.


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When seconds count, leo is only moments away.

You and you alone are your first responder.

 

[JCSR]

Discharge at a strip club?

Clean up aisle 4, clean-up aisle 4, watch your step!

 

[DadSmith]

Armed civilian neutralized Indiana mall shooter in just 15 seconds, police say

Three victims were killed and two more were wounded in the attack.

news.yahoo.com

Positive article headline from Yahoo.

A preliminary autopsy report released Tuesday said Sapirman was shot eight times and died from his wounds.

Excellent shooting under pressure.