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[JEBland]

Did you not post all men are sinners?
Hypocrite fits well.

Everyone has standards, and they differ across the board.

As long as ones standards are lawful, no one should care.

This is a terrible general position. I guess we'll start at the end and work our way back.

Lawful comes from standards. If we abandon standards, that eventually abandons lawfulness. I don't want to take too long on this or start ****ing and **********ing... So we'll just grab two real-life examples.

We can take some inspiration from the recent legislative session. Suppose, as a not-quite-hypothetical situation that there is a young (but adult) woman. She is in bed at a frat house in her new boyfriend's room. A young (adult) man enters the room and they have sex. She assumes that the man is her boyfriend and never turns around. The man is not. By Indiana state law, not rape. In fact, even in the refined definition of rape in Indiana, it's still not. Should we not be bothered or care about this?

So if the law says that the gov doesn't have to pay you for damages when they blow your home half apart in a shootout with a bad guy who you don't know or have any connection with holes up in your home... That's okay because the law and the court says so? Law is inspired by morality, but it ain't the same thing. I'd wager that you actually know that.

You keep mentioning freedom, but freedom to disagree, freedom to tell people "what you are doing is wrong" is part of the package that allows society to move forward. "Everyone sins and therefore there's no right to call out sin" is just a deflection. The post-mordernist "there is no truth" philosophy is just sophistry.

Towards the primary point of this thread:
Anyone advocating that it's okay to sexualize children ought to be kept the hell away from kids to put it lightly.

 

[Ingomike]

What adults do in the privacy of their own homes is their own business. There’s a societal cost to allowing unchecked access of porn to children though. Can we all at least agree with that?

Apparently not…

 

[AndreusMaximus]

Our country had hundreds of porn showing drive-in theaters operating before the ease of renting adult VHS tapes became available. Then the internet mostly killed renting-buying CD's.
I believe El Paso still has two porn Drive-in's running.


Local laws/ordinances can curtail something's, and when that encroaches on The First Amendment, law suits like Flints need to happen.
Your believes dont trump others believes.

Heres a little article from one of many porn drive-in near where I grew up.

The Central Drive-In, named for its location on Central Avenue, opened in 1958. It could accomodate about 650 cars.

By 1970, the drive-in had turned to adult films, which caused many a fender-bender on Central Avenue, from which the pornographic films could be partially seen. By the time the theater closed in 1987, it had been showing mainstream films for a couple of years once again.

It was afterward demolished and a shopping center built on the site.

I honestly was not aware that establishments that displayed pornographic films in a location visible from public roadways were ever allowed to exist in this country. That is morally abhorrent, to put it mildly, and I honestly never dreamt I'd hear someone trying to defend such a thing.

Frankly, if that's what the First Amendment is meant to protect, than I say to heck with the First Amendment. But I don't believe for a moment that it does.

 

[jamil]

Apparently not…

Well, give him the opportunity to say thst. But also, give him the opportunity to agree.

 

[Ingomike]

Well, give him the opportunity to say thst. But also, give him the opportunity to agree.

I was thinking bigger, we as a society cannot agree on it…

 

[jamil]

I honestly was not aware that establishments that displayed pornographic films in a location visible from public roadways were ever allowed to exist in this country. That is morally abhorrent, to put it mildly, and I honestly never dreamt I'd hear someone trying to defend such a thing.

Frankly, if that's what the First Amendment is meant to protect, than I say to heck with the First Amendment. But I don't believe for a moment that it does.

I remember those days. My community was unsuccessful in forcing them out, but was quite successful in forcing them to make it unviewable from common areas.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

 

[jamil]

I was thinking bigger, we as a society cannot agree on it…

We seem to be in an era when some cultish ideologues agree with sides instead of agreeing on what is right for society. Their side says it’s okay and they immediately trust their side.

If it were the opposite side pushing the sexualization of children, they’d be against it. And if their side now said it is wrong, the cult would act as if they were always against it.

 

[jamil]

Well, @Creedmoor? Do you think this report is inaccurate? For the sake of argument, let’s say it is. Is that appropriate material to be in a school library?

 

[Leadeye]

I honestly was not aware that establishments that displayed pornographic films in a location visible from public roadways were ever allowed to exist in this country. That is morally abhorrent, to put it mildly, and I honestly never dreamt I'd hear someone trying to defend such a thing.

Frankly, if that's what the First Amendment is meant to protect, than I say to heck with the First Amendment. But I don't believe for a moment that it does.

Cinema West was around in Elletsville Indiana for a long time. Right on SR 46 they had tall metal fences to keep people from watching from the highway.

HIgh school kids would try to find areas where you could watch, but local law knew them all, and made them move on.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

Cinema West was around in Elletsville Indiana for a long time. Right on SR 46 they had tall metal fences to keep people from watching form the highway.

HIgh school kids would try to find areas where you could watch, but local law knew them all, and made them move on.

Wow. That's just up the road from me, and I'd never even heard of it. How long ago did they close down?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Cinema West was around in Elletsville Indiana for a long time. Right on SR 46 they had tall metal fences to keep people from watching form the highway.

HIgh school kids would try to find areas where you could watch, but local law knew them all, and made them move on.

Up in Attica they had the Triple X drive in, but the back of the screen faced the road.

 

[Leadeye]

Wow. That's just up the road from me, and I'd never even heard of it. How long ago did they close down?

I don't know for sure, it was operating in the 70s when I was in Bloomington, just east of town. Looked like it had been there for a while. I moved to Indy after school and when I got back to that area in the 90s, it was gone.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

I don't know for sure, it was operating in the 70s when I was in Bloomington, just east of town. Looked like it had been there for a while. I moved to Indy after school and when I got back to that area in the 90s, it was gone.

Ah, I see; I was born in 95, so I guess that explains why I never heard of it.

 

[Leadeye]

Ah, I see; I was born in 95, so I guess that explains why I never heard of it.

I think it was just east of the creek that runs through town, on the south side of 46.

 

[Creedmoor]

Were there a lot of children watching porn in drive through theaters?

If one drove or walked by after dark,the two I know of growing up yes.
They would see neggid in action.

 

[Creedmoor]

I honestly was not aware that establishments that displayed pornographic films in a location visible from public roadways were ever allowed to exist in this country. That is morally abhorrent, to put it mildly, and I honestly never dreamt I'd hear someone trying to defend such a thing.

Frankly, if that's what the First Amendment is meant to protect, than I say to heck with the First Amendment. But I don't believe for a moment that it does.

Good thing your beliefs and morals dont make up our First Amendment.

 

[Creedmoor]

Well, @Creedmoor? Do you think this report is inaccurate? For the sake of argument, let’s say it is. Is that appropriate material to be in a school library?

My personal opinions are, Elementary and Junior High? Nope
High School 10-12th grade? Yes.

Now thats my personal opinion, if its deemed illegal the city,county or state should remove it.
I would guess the courts will figure it out.
So what other books need to be removed ir burned?
Its a slippery slope. Whats next?
Are great Books like,

Catcher and the Rye
Color Purple
Grapes of Wrath
Kill a Mockingbird
1984
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,
Still in your kids school librarys?

 

[Creedmoor]

Wow. That's just up the road from me, and I'd never even heard of it. How long ago did they close down?

They died with the coming of home vhs players and vhs rental stores.
Then mainstream sat tv, cable tv, cd rentals and the internet at home.

 

[Creedmoor]

Ah, I see; I was born in 95, so I guess that explains why I never heard of it.

Maybe you should better educate yourself.
Pornagraphic material is nothing new to man.
Porn has been dated back to The Ramesside Period, The Turin Erotic Papyrus.
1292-1075 B.C.E.