Getting rid of Holcomb

[JettaKnight]

We sound like a bunch of abuse victims.
”I can’t leave him, no one will love me.”

Is it bad that I laughed at that?

 

[BugI02]

And that is why a better Republican is very unlikely to come along. Everyone votes for the (R) or (D) anymore and that isn't gonna change. It's like we are all skinner rats.

I disagree; as long as name recognition means more than position on the issues and people will keep electing the dissipated scions generations removed from a once revered politician, that will do far more to discourage good candidates than failing to vote for a third party with no realistic chance of winning

Better that the Republicans and Libertarians put up a coalition candidate, but since 'Legalize it!' wouldn't be job one, and he would be of diminished purity, I suspect this is not an option

 

[BigRed]

Suggested campaign slogan for Holcomb:


"Hey, I know I am a worthless piece of **** with little to no regard for a limited state, but I'm better than the other worthless piece of ****.
Vote for me!"


Looks like it would work just fine!

 

[MCgrease08]

Look, I understand your concern. But if we were to kick Holcomb to the curb, we'd likely have gridlock given the makeup of the Indiana House and Senate. Or are you worried about THEIR intestinal fortitude?

I have never understood the idea of winning through losing. Organized opposition with nothing else has not exactly show stellar results for congresses under Obama or Trump. Both have been able to make policy through EOs. I'm not sure it would be any better at the state level.

I could vote for Rainwater, if he'd commit to withdrawing when it became apparent that he could not win.

Damn sure not gonna ride that horse to get us another Donnelly though.

So Rainwater should have withdrawn two weeks ago then.

 

[foszoe]

I disagree;

Of course

Well Ross Perot and Ron Paul couldn't get that done. I am running out of years on this earth to see it happen.

 

[BugI02]

Of course

Well Ross Perot and Ron Paul couldn't get that done. I am running out of years on this earth to see it happen.

The fault, dear Fozus, is not in our stars but in ourselves

 

[Liberty Sanders]

This is just plain ignorant. If you want to equate it to not voting, maybe. Equating it to voting for the other candidate, no.

Who are you trying to kid? If writing in a candidate results in a sufficient number of votes being pulled from the Republican that the dem/socialist/commie is elected, what the hell difference does it make HOW you handed that office to the bad guy?

 

[nate77]

Who are you trying to kid? If writing in a candidate results in a sufficient number of votes being pulled from the Republican that the dem/socialist/commie is elected, what the hell difference does it make HOW you handed that office to the bad guy?

Holcomb is the “bad guy”.

He has crossed the red line, unlike Obama that means something to me. I will never cast my vote for him.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Holcomb is the “bad guy”.

He has crossed the red line, unlike Obama that means something to me. I will never cast my vote for him.

No doubt there are better people, but who among them are 1) on the ballot and 2) have a legitimate chance of winning? That's the conundrum.

 

[BugI02]

Holcomb is the “bad guy”.

He has crossed the red line, unlike Obama that means something to me. I will never cast my vote for him.

Does Indiana have a lieutenant governor? Get the Libertarian candidate to run for that ... you know, in case Holcomb has an accident or needs to step down for his health

 

[KLB]

Who are you trying to kid? If writing in a candidate results in a sufficient number of votes being pulled from the Republican that the dem/socialist/commie is elected, what the hell difference does it make HOW you handed that office to the bad guy?

I understand, you think that just because there is an R next to the guy's name, he deserves your vote. There are others that do not share your blind devotion to the party.

I owe him and the Republican party nothing. He needs to earn my support, which he is not doing.

I guess you would prefer that people that are so disgusted with the candidate just stayed home and didn't vote for anyone on your team. That should be your bigger fear, because it seems most people in this country go that route. Your doomsday rhetoric isn't going to convince many, if any, to change their minds.

 

[DNS]

Some of you guys who say Holcomb crossed the line, do you wear seat belts?

 

[BugI02]

Some of you guys who say Holcomb crossed the line, do you wear seat belts?

Yeah, I've always worn them long before they were mandatory. Not because I thought that they were particularly likely to save my life but because in spirited driving they help keep you located in the driving position where you have the best chance to control/regain control of the car. Five point harness required in club racing, but even if they weren't I daresay everybody would still use them because they provide a performance advantage

A great many of the safety features offered on vehicles (usually well prior to mandates) are sold based on convincing the buyer they are effective, not trying to convince them their expenditure will save someone elses life. If gov'ts had convinced people masks were effective, they wouldn't need to mandate them

Oh, that's right - they did everything the could to convince people they weren't effective until they felt they had enough for their own use - now it's 'just kidding'

The real rub for me is they didn't think people would respond to an altruistic request to either refrain from buying masks or perhaps donate some to health care workers, which showed a very low opinion of their fellow man, but now they pretend to believe that those same people should respond to an altruistic request to mask up to save their neighbor

So, you can't trust us to do the right thing but we should be made to do the right thing now that it suits your agenda?

 

[BugI02]

I understand, you think that just because there is an R next to the guy's name, he deserves your vote. There are others that do not share your blind devotion to the party.

I owe him and the Republican party nothing. He needs to earn my support, which he is not doing.

I guess you would prefer that people that are so disgusted with the candidate just stayed home and didn't vote for anyone on your team. That should be your bigger fear, because it seems most people in this country go that route. Your doomsday rhetoric isn't going to convince many, if any, to change their minds.

Yeah, what is it? About 4% or less (4% a modern high water mark) won't be convinced. If people can't see that there will likely be only one outcome of that behavior, then "May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

IMO, no politician on the right is going to work with libertarians until they become a reliable partner and realize that that 3 to 4% is a gun held to their own heads, not some advantage that puts them in the driver's seat. Incremental change is your best hope and Trump is your best chance at real change. Take it or leave it, we made the climb without you once and we can do it again. And when we do, what little influence you had will be a sad broken thing

 

[KLB]

Yeah, what is it? About 4% or less (4% a modern high water mark) won't be convinced. If people can't see that there will likely be only one outcome of that behavior, then "May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

IMO, no politician on the right is going to work with libertarians until they become a reliable partner and realize that that 3 to 4% is a gun held to their own heads, not some advantage that puts them in the driver's seat. Incremental change is your best hope and Trump is your best chance at real change. Take it or leave it, we made the climb without you once and we can do it again. And when we do, what little influence you had will be a sad broken thing

Why is assumption that they would always vote for the R in these discussions?

 

[KLB]

Some of you guys who say Holcomb crossed the line, do you wear seat belts?

Yep. I learned the hard way when I was young and my head hit my windshield. I've worn one ever since.

My children were taught to always wear one as well. Not because of a stupid law, but rather because I cared enough to want them to be protected as much as possible.

 

[jamil]

Some of you guys who say Holcomb crossed the line, do you wear seat belts?

is not wearing seatbelts a class B misdemeanor? Was the seat belt law enacted through an emergency order by the governor? Maybe you could catch up with why people are actually pissed at him.

 

[jamil]

Yep. I learned the hard way when I was young and my head hit my windshield. I've worn one ever since.

My children were taught to always wear one as well. Not because of a stupid law, but rather because I cared enough to want them to be protected as much as possible.

I was in an accident in my teens where the seatbelt did me more harm than good. But those situations are rare compared to when they help. If the passenger wasn’t wearing one he might not have made it.

 

[indyartisan]

You have to wear a seatbelt nowadays to keep your airbag from killing you.
If you think your kids are always wearing seatbelts you might want to check their school bus.

 

[DNS]

I think the most important thing is to have a pro second amendment gov. who declared gun stores essential in these troubled times!