Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man

[churchmouse]

I doubt it. Most people won't see it until it kicks in their front doors or drags them out of their cars.

They do not "Want" to see it. Denial. It is a powerful mental condition.

That CNN was attacked and looted is a good sign that those involved are mindless and on a mission of destruction.

 

[jamil]

that doesn't address my question. Maybe it got lost in that big wall of text that I posted. Let me repeat it:

If the police aren't handling it, nobody should?

That does answer the question. Some rando dumbass with a bow and arrow isn't handling it. So what does citizens handling it look like?

 

[KJQ6945]

They do not "Want" to see it. Denial. It is a powerful mental condition.

That CNN was attacked and looted is a good sign that those involved are mindless and on a mission of destruction.

They busted out the windows at the Wheeler Mission. WTF? Animals!

 

[jamil]

Will this be the wake up call that we are seriously on our own.

Wake up call for what? No one's sleeping. Everyone sees what's happening, albeit through their own lens.

 

[Dutchisaurus]

That does answer the question. Some rando dumbass with a bow and arrow isn't handling it. So what does citizens handling it look like?

Standing a riot line with police? Guarding a store, citizens arrests, taking any action that in some way makes the situation better

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[churchmouse]

That does answer the question. Some rando dumbass with a bow and arrow isn't handling it. So what does citizens handling it look like?

There are several links out there of what it looks like when citizens handle it.

Thing is I doubt IMPD would respect it if they saw it.

No knock on them but apparently this is all new to them and they are over whelmed.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Will this be the wake up call that we are seriously on our own.

I don't do the Twitter. #nooneiscoming with credit to Tom Givens seems appropriate.

 

[jamil]

They do not "Want" to see it. Denial. It is a powerful mental condition.

That CNN was attacked and looted is a good sign that those involved are mindless and on a mission of destruction.

Yes. Now that's an accurately descriptive adjective for most of the people participating in this madness, mindlessly following the cues from people with bad intentions.

If this is an intelligent and coordinated assault on what America is, it will take an intelligent and coordinated defense. Not randos yelling out their car windows and then trying to retaliate with bows and arrows. THAT was mindless. Vigilantism is not gonna help.

 

[Dutchisaurus]

Yes. Now that's an accurately descriptive adjective for most of the people participating in this madness, mindlessly following the cues from people with bad intentions.

If this is an intelligent and coordinated assault on what America is, it will take an intelligent and coordinated defense. Not randos yelling out their car windows and then trying to retaliate with bows and arrows. THAT was mindless. Vigilantism is not gonna help.

Rando or Rambo?

I seem to remember Rambo being good with a bow

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[Frank_N_Stein]

For all of you talking **** about the police not doing anything and you "being on our own." I haven't heard anything about you standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the officers that are getting spit on, assaulted, shot at, etc. It is easy to talk **** from the safety of your house.

 

[Dutchisaurus]

For all of you talking **** about the police not doing anything and you "being on our own." I haven't heard anything about you standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the officers that are getting spit on, assaulted, shot at, etc. It is easy to talk **** from the safety of your house.

I tried to go help last night. I was turned away. But I did drop off water.

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[churchmouse]

For all of you talking **** about the police not doing anything and you "being on our own." I haven't heard anything about you standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the officers that are getting spit on, assaulted, shot at, etc. It is easy to talk **** from the safety of your house.

I think you know I would stand the line with you guys. Many I know would as well.
I hope my rants did not come off as blaming you guys in the trench's. No sir no way. I look much higher up that food chain.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I tried to go help last night. I was turned away. But I did drop off water.

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And that is appreciated.

 

[jamil]

There are several links out there of what it looks like when citizens handle it.

Thing is I doubt IMPD would respect it if they saw it.

No knock on them but apparently this is all new to them and they are over whelmed.

I think a sizeable group of armed citizens defending a business could be effective. If you're gonna do it, plan it to be successful. Plan to be effective or stay home. The guy with the sword would be better off if he sat at home watching his business go up in flames. A live dog is better off than a dead lion. The guy with the bow and arrow would still have his car and everything he lost if he sat at home watching the world burn. If they thought it through pragmatically, surely they could see through their delusions of grandeur.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

For all of you talking **** about the police not doing anything and you "being on our own." I haven't heard anything about you standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the officers that are getting spit on, assaulted, shot at, etc. It is easy to talk **** from the safety of your house.

I think most realize that it's not that the police aren't doing anything, it's just that they're overwhelmed and can't be everywhere they're needed. God bless all of the officers that were/are on the front lines of all this bull****.

 

[jamil]

I think you know I would stand the line with you guys. Many I know would as well.
I hope my rants did not come off as blaming you guys in the trench's. No sir no way. I look much higher up that food chain.

There's not a mechanism for that really. Maybe there should be. But think about that practically. How would a police department enlist the help of citizens to stand with them shoulder to shoulder to restore peace? There's so many practical things not considered in the belief that this would happen. There's liability, proper training, weeding out troublemakers/racists/*******s/instigators. It's just not practical. But, like I said, I don't see anything wrong with a group of people banding together to defend specific lives and property with a good plan.

 

[Dutchisaurus]

For all of you talking **** about the police not doing anything and you "being on our own." I haven't heard anything about you standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the officers that are getting spit on, assaulted, shot at, etc. It is easy to talk **** from the safety of your house.

If you've got any other ways I can help I'm all ears. I've got more cases of water to drop off and a scary dog. I've also got a sponge and goof off.



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[churchmouse]

There's not a mechanism for that really. Maybe there should be. But think about that practically. How would a police department enlist the help of citizens to stand with them shoulder to shoulder to restore peace? There's so many practical things not considered in the belief that this would happen. There's liability, proper training, weeding out troublemakers/racists/*******s/instigators. It's just not practical. But, like I said, I don't see anything wrong with a group of people banding together to defend specific lives and property with a good plan.

I get that. But 1st at least call up everything at your disposal. And if that fails call out the citizenry. This should wake people up at least to what's in our faces right now.

 

[Dutchisaurus]

There's not a mechanism for that really. Maybe there should be. But think about that practically. How would a police department enlist the help of citizens to stand with them shoulder to shoulder to restore peace? There's so many practical things not considered in the belief that this would happen. There's liability, proper training, weeding out troublemakers/racists/*******s/instigators. It's just not practical. But, like I said, I don't see anything wrong with a group of people banding together to defend specific lives and property with a good plan.

**** it isn't that hard. Make a call for honorably discharged vets with DD214s, deputize them. Problem solved.

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[jamil]

I think most realize that it's not that the police aren't doing anything, it's just that they're overwhelmed and can't be everywhere they're needed. God bless all of the officers that were/are on the front lines of all this bull****.

I don't think that's what the #noonescoming hashtag means. There seems to be a belief among a few people on the right that democrat mayors are telling police to stand down. And in the bat-**** craziest cities that may be at least a little true. It happened in Portland with many of their protests in the recent past. But it doesn't look to me like most of these cities in the past few days are telling cops to stand down. Whatever inaction we see I think is more due to being overwhelmed by what seems to be a coordinated effort to turn these protests into as much violence as possible.