Do those Baptists attend the same church, or do they want their own? And, if 'B', why do you think that is?A Black South Baptist is more aligned with a White Southern Baptist, that he is with a Black East Coast Catholic.
I wouldn’t know. I’m speaking hypothetically. What does that have to do with premise I posed? If you’re asking for a personal reference, you’re going to be disappointed... especially concerning Southern Baptists.Do those Baptists attend the same church, or do they want their own? And, if 'B', why do you think that is?
Eh? Who is defending what?It amazes me the things people will defend sometimes.
It is my suspicion that even those Baptists, which was your counter example, segregate themselves because they want a 'homeland' - a church of their own. They don't think they're superior to the other group, they are not SBC supremacists or NBC supremacists. They just want to be left aloneI wouldn’t know. I’m speaking hypothetically. What does that have to do with premise I posed? If you’re asking for a personal reference, you’re going to be disappointed... especially concerning Southern Baptists.
Well based on the current discussion I would venture to guess he was referring to WN and WS.Eh? Who is defending what?
Originally that would be true, for Southern Baptist. Speaking personally, that’s not so true anymore. Given history, yes older churches were/are segregated; but around the time I was in HS, smaller congregations began holding “home and away services,” a practice still observed today. And those people love each other. They charter greyhounds and head to conventions like it was a trip to Vegas. And that’s the Southern Baptists, other Baptists in my hometown are pretty mixed Open Door is one of those churches, with a mixed pulpit. So when I say a Southern Baptist would be more comfortable with a White Southern Baptist over an East Coast Black Catholic, that true, at least from where I’m from.It is my suspicion that even those Baptists, which was your counter example, segregate themselves because they want a 'homeland' - a church of their own. They don't think they're superior to the other group, they are not SBC supremacists or NBC supremacists. They just want to be left alone
Actually, whether they are the same or differentWell based on the current discussion I would venture to guess WN and WS.
That does not really help you case. It’s a lot of words that don’t really say anything but “I disagree with the dictionary definition.”The key difference between ‘nationalists’ and ‘supremacists’
Almost every American is a “nationalist” of one kind or another. So is almost every Russian, Chinese, or North Korean. Don’t get mad. We are not accusing you of any sort of bias, racism, or other unpleasant views. We are merely trying to emphasize, again, how overly simplistic some labels can...www.cjr.org
I suspect he doesn’t see a difference. Neither one are worthy of defending. That’s just my take.Actually, whether they are the same or different
And the who?Well based on the current discussion I would venture to guess he was referring to WN and WS.
I was raised Baptist, but I found out later my Dad was a Catholic who converted to marry my Mom because she would not convert nor agree to raise her children Catholic, so they could not be married in the churchOriginally that would be true, for Southern Baptist. Speaking personally, that’s not so true anymore. Given history, yes older churches were/are segregated; but around the time I was in HS, smaller congregations began holding “home and away services,” a practice still observed today. And those people love each other. They charter greyhounds and head to conventions like it was a trip to Vegas. And that’s the Southern Baptists, other Baptists in my hometown are pretty mixed Open Door is one of those churches, with a mixed pulpit. So when I say a Southern Baptist would be more comfortable with a White Southern Baptist over an East Coast Black Catholic, that true, at least from where I’m from.
*I do not presume to speak on behalf of all, just relaying personal experience.
I'm not defending either, I don't really know anything first hand about them. I merely stated way upthread that, given their stated goals, there is a difference between the two and they should not be conflated - as he was doing when that attracted my attentionI suspect he doesn’t see a difference. Neither one are worthy of defending. That’s just my take.
I guess you can’t have a discussion about it without being accused of defending it.I'm not defending either, I don't really know anything first hand about them. I merely stated way upthread that, given their stated goals, there is a difference between the two and they should not be conflated - as he was doing when that attracted my attention
Well, I'm white so I'm automatically a racist by defaultI guess you can’t have a discussion about it without being accused of defending it.
I don’t consider my views on nationalism to be racist. I guess I lean more toward being a nationalist who also happens to be white. That’s where I draw the distinction from WN and WS.
I am an American nationalist. Not a white America and not a black America. Just America.
I believe Trump had the same overall vision for everyone. Othersmaywill disagree.
A catholic isnt sitting down with a baptist. They dont have time to have their ear talked off and the over the top positivity may kill them.Originally that would be true, for Southern Baptist. Speaking personally, that’s not so true anymore. Given history, yes older churches were/are segregated; but around the time I was in HS, smaller congregations began holding “home and away services,” a practice still observed today. And those people love each other. They charter greyhounds and head to conventions like it was a trip to Vegas. And that’s the Southern Baptists, other Baptists in my hometown are pretty mixed Open Door is one of those churches, with a mixed pulpit. So when I say a Southern Baptist would be more comfortable with a White Southern Baptist over an East Coast Black Catholic, that true, at least from where I’m from.
*I do not presume to speak on behalf of all, just relaying personal experience.