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    Food Crisis Could Force Wartime Rations and Vegetarian Diet on Britons
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    August 11, 2009
    Valerie Elliott, Consumer Editor
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    The British people face wartime rations and a vegetarian diet in the event of a world food shortage, a new official assessment on the UK’s food security suggests today.

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    Photo: Britain faces the prospect of a vegetarian diet in the event of a world food shortage. (Steve Parsons/PA)

    Even though the nation is 73 per cent self-sufficient in food production, higher than during the 1950s, the food chain is at risk from global influences such as a worldwide increase in population, climate change bringing extreme weather patterns, higher oil prices and more crops being grown for bio-fuel instead of food.

    Supplies in future may also be disrupted by animal disease outbreaks, disruption of power supplies, trade disputes and interruptions for shipping and at ports.

    The UK however has one of the highest cereal production capabilities in the world with seven tonnes grown per hectare, compared a world average of 3.3 tonnes per hectare.

    In the event of an extreme event, cereal crops would be used to feed the nation and ensure that each person received sufficient daily calories.

    But people would have to consume less — the average number of calories eaten per day in the early 1960s was about 2,100, whereas the most recent figure compiled by the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation is 2,800.

    Even during the Second World War Britain did not have to rely wholly on domestic food production, but Hilary Benn, the Cabinet Minister with overall responsibility for food policy, has ordered officials to prepare for a scenario where the country could feed itself.

    In the event of an extreme emergency the most dramatic consequence would be every person eating a predominantly vegetarian diet — more cereals, fruit and vegetables and less meat and poultry. Cereals used to feed farm animals would be shifted into human food production.

    A paper setting out the food security assessment states that the food on offer would be “a highly restricted, if sufficiently nutritious diet”.

    One of the biggest threats to the supply chain would be restrictions in trade of meat and poultry from Argentina and Brazil or of GM soya, the main commodity used to feed livestock in Britain.

    The threat of climate change however will also require new growing techniques such as reduced water usage in agriculture.

    In times of normal trading, however, the Government also wishes to ensure that the nation eats a healthier diet and is particularly concerned that low-income households are able to afford fresh fruit and vegetables.

    Ministers are also anxious that consumers have confidence in the safety of food and further work is to be undertaken to help reduce the incidence of food poisoning caused by common bugs such as salmonellas, listeria, E.coli and campylobacter. Hygiene inspections at food outlets by local authority enforcement officers is likely to be stepped up.

    Mr Benn today called for a radical rethink on the way the UK produces food. He also insisted that GM crops in future could help boost food production especially if some varieties were drought-resistant or required less water, fertilisers and pesticides.

    He backed the need for GM crop trials to find out the facts about the new technology and to use the science to boost production.

    “We need a radical rethink in how we produce and consume food. Globally we need to cut emissions and adapt to the changing climate that will alter what we can grow and where we can grow it. We must maintain the natural resources — soils, water and biodiversity — on which food production depends.”

    “And because we live in an interconnected world — where the price of soya in Brazil affects the price of steak at the local supermarket — we need to look at global issues that affect food security here. That’s why we need to consider what food systems should look like in 20 years and what must happen to get there.”

    He is anxious to engage the wider public in debate about the future of the country’s food security as well as how best to help people eat healthier diets and to ensure that new production techniques do not damage the UK’s natural resources.

    A new UK food strategy is to be published before the end of the year.

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    Dr Falken

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    Check out PBS's "World War II House" about a modern day family in England recreating the day to day activities their parents live during the Battle of Britian. Gives a neat insight to what that was like.
     
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    Well first off, this is an extreme version of the story, but YES it could happen to ANY nation that is a "net importer" of food. BTW, the USA is currently a net importer of food.

    It is very likely that both in the UK and in the USA there would be no starvation, no rationing, but there would/could be sky high prices on some types of food by simply following the simple laws of supply & demand.
     

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    here we go!


    Food giants say U.S. running out of sugar
    Aug 13, 11:31 AM EDT


    By Brad Dorfman


    CHICAGO (Reuters) - Large U.S. food companies have been pushing the Obama administration to ease sugar import curbs, threatening higher consumer prices and possible job losses, citing forecasts for unprecedented sugar shortages.


    In a letter to U.S. Agriculture Secretary Thomas Vilsack dated August 5, companies and groups that include Kraft Foods Inc, General Mills Inc and Hershey Co warn that "our nation will virtually run out of sugar," if a USDA forecast is accurate.


    But the letter was written a week before the Agriculture Department said Wednesday that the closely watched stocks-to-use ratio in the U.S. sugar market for 2009/10 stood at 6.7 percent, up from 3.4 percent in last month's report.


    The situation is seen easing because of increased beet sugar and cane sugar production, according to the USDA.


    Still, the USDA prefers the stocks ratio at 15 percent and a figure below that level has been used by the government as a reason to order imports, as it did in August 2008.


    A spokeswoman for the Sweetener Users Association, a group that represents companies that use sugar and trade associations for those companies, said the group has not yet reacted to Wednesday's new USDA report.


    Food industry analysts see inflation as a whole contained for an industry that in the past year sharply increased prices as costs for commodities such as vegetable oil, wheat and corn surged.


    Many of those prices have since fallen and in fact, manufacturers are now in a position of trying to defend the price increases as consumers and retailers try to rein in costs in a weak economy.


    "For every ingredient that has gone up in price, there's probably two or three that have gone down in price," D.A. Davidson analyst Timothy Ramey, said.


    Current import quotas limit the amount of tariff-free sugar the food companies can import in a given year, except from Mexico.


    American sugar growers reject claims by confectionary companies that the United States is running short of sugar, arguing that supplies will improve as the U.S. beet and cane harvest gets underway. In the case of cane, that would be later this month and beets are harvested at the start of October.


    "There is absolutely no shortage of sugar here," Jack Roney, director of economic and policy analysis of industry group American Sugar Alliance.


    Supplies from domestic harvest are about to flood the market, he said. "If we run short, we can increase the TRQ," he said, referring to the tariff import program under which more than 20 countries take part in importing sugar to the United States.


    Shares of Kraft were down 6 cents at $28.44 on Thursday on the New York stock Exchange, while General Mills' were down 48 cents at $57.36 and Hershey's were down 2 cents at $38.36.


    (Additional reporting by Rene Pastor in New York and John Tilak in Bangalore; Editing by Clarence Fernandez and Lisa Shumaker)


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    here we go!


    Food giants say U.S. running out of sugar
    Aug 13, 11:31 AM EDT

    By Brad Dorfman


    CHICAGO (Reuters) - Large U.S. food companies have been pushing the Obama administration to ease sugar import curbs, threatening higher consumer prices and possible job losses, citing forecasts for unprecedented sugar shortages.


    In a letter to U.S. Agriculture Secretary Thomas Vilsack dated August 5, companies and groups that include Kraft Foods Inc, General Mills Inc and Hershey Co warn that "our nation will virtually run out of sugar," if a USDA forecast is accurate.


    But the letter was written a week before the Agriculture Department said Wednesday that the closely watched stocks-to-use ratio in the U.S. sugar market for 2009/10 stood at 6.7 percent, up from 3.4 percent in last month's report.


    The situation is seen easing because of increased beet sugar and cane sugar production, according to the USDA.


    Still, the USDA prefers the stocks ratio at 15 percent and a figure below that level has been used by the government as a reason to order imports, as it did in August 2008.


    A spokeswoman for the Sweetener Users Association, a group that represents companies that use sugar and trade associations for those companies, said the group has not yet reacted to Wednesday's new USDA report.


    Food industry analysts see inflation as a whole contained for an industry that in the past year sharply increased prices as costs for commodities such as vegetable oil, wheat and corn surged.


    Many of those prices have since fallen and in fact, manufacturers are now in a position of trying to defend the price increases as consumers and retailers try to rein in costs in a weak economy.


    "For every ingredient that has gone up in price, there's probably two or three that have gone down in price," D.A. Davidson analyst Timothy Ramey, said.


    Current import quotas limit the amount of tariff-free sugar the food companies can import in a given year, except from Mexico.


    American sugar growers reject claims by confectionary companies that the United States is running short of sugar, arguing that supplies will improve as the U.S. beet and cane harvest gets underway. In the case of cane, that would be later this month and beets are harvested at the start of October.


    "There is absolutely no shortage of sugar here," Jack Roney, director of economic and policy analysis of industry group American Sugar Alliance.


    Supplies from domestic harvest are about to flood the market, he said. "If we run short, we can increase the TRQ," he said, referring to the tariff import program under which more than 20 countries take part in importing sugar to the United States.


    Shares of Kraft were down 6 cents at $28.44 on Thursday on the New York stock Exchange, while General Mills' were down 48 cents at $57.36 and Hershey's were down 2 cents at $38.36.


    (Additional reporting by Rene Pastor in New York and John Tilak in Bangalore; Editing by Clarence Fernandez and Lisa Shumaker)



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    melensdad

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    Sorry, but I don't see that as a CRISIS.

    Sure, the cost of chocolate bars will go from 50-cents to 65-cents. Fannie May Chocolate Hearts at Valentines day will be downsized to keep costs at retail in line, and a 5 pound bag of sugar at the grocery store will go up in price to what, $4.79 a bag?

    Now that will hurt some people, but it won't lead to starvation or food rationing.
     

    raiven

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    a majortie of the food that is consumed is made with sugar just pick up some things and read the back so if that is no longer availibale most foods can,t be made unless a substituite is found to be made in food.
     

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    running out of food

    how can we be running out of food? we have so much corn we have to turn it into alcohol and burn it in our cars. We may import some food but, my contention is the U.S. is NOT running out of food.
     

    melensdad

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    a majortie of the food that is consumed is made with sugar just pick up some things and read the back so if that is no longer availibale most foods can,t be made unless a substituite is found to be made in food.
    We already have a substitute: High Fructose Corn Syrup


    how can we be running out of food? we have so much corn we have to turn it into alcohol and burn it in our cars. We may import some food but, my contention is the U.S. is NOT running out of food.
    We are actually a NET IMPORTER of food, but it is more because of the food choices we make than anything else. We demand fresh tropical fruit in the winter and fresh picked apples in May. Those types of choices force us to bring in those items from south of the equator.
     

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    *We already have a substitute: High Fructose Corn Syrup* that stuff is really bad anyway the body cant digest or get rid out of the body i had to watch that report that came out on the media a few years back.
     

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    *We already have a substitute: High Fructose Corn Syrup* that stuff is really bad anyway the body cant digest or get rid out of the body i had to watch that report that came out on the media a few years back.


    Yup it's bad for you, just like red meat, or pork, or alcohol... Why cause the g'man said so.

    You have been ingesting HFCS for decades and probably did not even know it.
     

    melensdad

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    Yup it's bad for you, just like red meat, or pork, or alcohol... Why cause the g'man said so.

    You have been ingesting HFCS for decades and probably did not even know it.

    I heard that High Fructose Corn Syrup is a government plot to kill off all the smart people so that will only leave worker drones to run the factories . . . oh but wait, the gub-mint already ran off most of the factories to China. Oh well. Nevermind :cool:
     

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    Yup it's bad for you, just like red meat, or pork, or alcohol... Why cause the g'man said so.

    You have been ingesting HFCS for decades and probably did not even know it.

    And the obesity rate in this country as well as number of diabetics has been rising exponentially during those same decades... In moderation, red meat, pork, alcohol, even HFCS isnt going to cause to you fall over dead...but HFCS is in freakin almost every packaged food. Granted, any sensible person who gives a flip about their health wouldnt and shouldnt make preserved foods a large part of their diet...but since when have Americans been sensible in our food choices? The numbers of people who stay home and cook their own food to feed their families is dwindling. Every Mc D's I pass by has a drive thru line that circles the building.

    Personallly, I go out of my way to eat HFCS.

    Regarding the corn America produces...none of it is edible until it undergoes significant chemical processing. We've got mountains of the stuff and cant just EAT it... Sure, we can feed it to cows and pigs, but that isnt the best diet for them either...

    I recommend a movie called "King Corn" which follows what happens to our corn once its planted, harvested, and shipped out, as well as outlines what has befallenof our "Nation of Farmers" with our current farm policies.
     
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