Joe Williams
Shooter
- Jun 26, 2008
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If you do carry in the open, be prepared to get harrassed by the police. You'll be an easy "contact" for them. They need so many "contacts" a day.
I never have been.
If you do carry in the open, be prepared to get harrassed by the police. You'll be an easy "contact" for them. They need so many "contacts" a day.
If you do carry in the open, be prepared to get harrassed by the police. You'll be an easy "contact" for them. They need so many "contacts" a day.
I never have been.
some guys make sheep nervous without a gunI open carry with some regularity and this has never happened to me. The only "contact" I have was another "carry license" individual (been carrying for 20 years, he said) who wanted to suggest that I cover up to avoid scaring the sheep.
Never an encounter with police. Ever.
Some have, of course, but it's not as common as the fearmongers would have you believe.
some guys make sheep nervous without a gun
I got asked if I had a permit once, I said "yes" and the cop said "ok". He didn't even ask to see the permit.I never have been.
I have never been harassed by the police for OC.If you do carry in the open, be prepared to get harrassed by the police. You'll be an easy "contact" for them. They need so many "contacts" a day.
Musclecarr, I am not trying to promote OC over CC or DC. I can only speak from my personal experience. I carry around my small town in Adams County, I OC frequently in Ft. Wayne and downtown Indy when I go to IU Hospital to see my doc, as well as many other towns and cities in Indiana that I visit while traveling. I have crossed paths with many types of LEOs in convenience stores and such with whom I may make eye contact, smile and nod my head in greeting. I have never once had any LEO ask me for my LTCH.I've never been harassed either, but I only OC when it is sensible too do so. But a few of my friends that OC in to a resturant before will tell you they have been. Also I guess its where you live. Out here in the country the police don't care as much. In the city, the police will harass you. Harassment is any cop who ask for a permit when it is obvious you OC and have a LTCH.
I've never been harassed either, but I only OC when it is sensible too do so. But a few of my friends that OC in to a resturant before will tell you they have been. Also I guess its where you live. Out here in the country the police don't care as much. In the city, the police will harass you. Harassment is any cop who ask for a permit when it is obvious you OC and have a LTCH.
u dont know much about semi auto handguns do ya? i carry 1 in the chamber, and u can put ur hand on my slide and try to stop it, but it would b the last thing u feel, with 1 in the chamber there is no need 4 ur slide to move, i pull the trigger it goes boom, ill stick with my 14+1 fnp .40, u can have that 5 shotAs I read through this thread...I began to realize that many people 'think' that they understand what a criminal is thinking prior to and during their attack...and having been an EMT, as well as a reserve officer, I am realizing that they don't.
The criminal, while out perpetraing his/her crimes, wants 3 things:
1. To be quick about it...15 seconds to 30 seconds, tops. Get in, get it done, and get out...fast. They want the element of surprise, so if you're not watching closely, they'll get you. They like corners, cars, etc...anywhere they can hide and surprise you, overpower you, and win with shock and speed.
2. To overpower their victim with speed, intimidation, bullying, threatening, etc...to make you cower in fear and hand over whatever they are wanting from you quickly...car keys, wallet, watch, jewelry, etc. They want you to be afraid so as to comply with their demands...remember, a robbery is not a negotiation!!!
3. To obtain their goal...again, be it car keys, wallet, watch, jewelry, etc...they want what they want...quickly...get in, get out...fast!!!!
I'm doubting that most people, concealed carry or open carry gun toters or not, will be able to even recognize or react to the immediate threat in the face of total surprise? Not everyone on this site has had experience in dealing with the criminal element or the after-affects that people face, and have no idea of the amount of fear, numbness, adrenyline, etc...that can have positive or negative effects on your ability to act or react to the situation. Some people actually freeze and cannot even comply with the criminal's request, much less even think about drawing and operating a handgun under such circumstances! You might think about it later, or even have some type of Van Damme response from some guy walking away after getting his butt kicked, saying "Yea....I'll get you back!" but don't do it!
The best thing you can do, under the circumstances, would be to simply comply with a larceny (robbery) attack and let it go. If they threaten bodily harm, or even cause it, human nature will take over and you will fight back...and if you happen to have a gun...and you are able to get it out, you will have a chance (which is why I favor the little 5-shot revolvers...they are exactly what they are designed to be...pull, point-n-shoot guns...pull it, point it or put it against the assailant's body, and pull the trigger a couple of times...purely defensive and defendable)...I hate to think that I would have to draw a gun, flip the little safety, point the gun, have him grab the slide, I pull the trigger and his grip prevents the slide from operating...whooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaa nellie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (You'd better have a 5 pound gun and start beating the **** out of him really fast!!!)
It really comes down to this...open carry...concealed carry...it's a personal choice and it simply comes down to what you're comfortable with or what your purpose is.
Just remember that no matter how you carry, you still need to do all the pertinent things like:
1. Be aware of your surroundings and who's where.
2. Keep your personal space and ID the BG early (if possible)...and take appropriate steps to avoid him/her.
3. Position yourself where you can see things before they start...for example, when I am in restaurants, I always like to sit off to the side, facing the door...so I can see who/what walks in and where they go...just a habit I picked up years ago.
4. Be smart...don't force a gun fight. The long-term effects can be disasterous...even if you're the one who lives.
u arent to sure how a semi auto handgun works are ya, i carry mine with 1 in the chamber, u can put ur hand on my slide and try to stop it from fireing, but that will b the last thing u feel, with 1 in the chamber it dosnt matter, if i squeeze it goes bang...ill carry my 14+1 fnp .40, u can have a 5 shot revolver i have 3x that much and no reloadind
God Bless!