Bass players are overpaid. At least that was my takeaway.
Hey now. Us bass players need to support our families too.
Bass players are overpaid. At least that was my takeaway.
Just like the 'FBI warnings" on old VHS types by purchasing the CD you are agreeing to not distribute the contents of the CD.
So you don't believe in the protection of intellectual property?
They are guilty of theft and should be held responsible for such acts. And the person who gave them the music should be charged as an accompliceWhile I don't agree that a contract should be valid based on swiping a debit card, we can leave that one be.
This still leaves out anyone who didn't make the purchase, right? They are bound under no such contract.
If the material is copyrighted/patented, the contract already exists. Use implies agreement.
What if I record the song digitally from a radio station? I've agreed to no contracts, right?
Sure I do. It should be protected just like any other piece of property is protected. Nobody should be able to take it without your consent.
They are guilty of theft and should be held responsible for such acts. And the person who gave them the music should be charged as an accomplice
A copyright means only the makers of the literature/music can copy it. You can't unless they allow you to. If they don't allow you to, and you do it anyway, you're breaking the copyright.
See text in green.What if I record the song digitally from a radio station? I've agreed to no contracts, right?
This is theft, as the radio station pays a fee each time they play a song. That is why there are so many commercials on "free" radio and not on the paid satellite radio service.
Sure I do. It should be protected just like any other piece of property is protected. Nobody should be able to take it without your consent.
By copying the music from a friend or other unpaid download service that is exactly what you are doing. Taking peoples intellectually property without there consent.
Why does use imply agreement?
No they are not thieves as they are not in possession of nor do they maintain an "intended permanent" possession.In your car, you play a CD for your two friends who are with you. They did not buy this CD themselves.
You are now all thieves.
Correct?
Why does use imply agreement?
So anyone who records a song from the radio is a thief in your eyes?
Does anyone study economics anymore?
No they are not thieves as they are not in possession of nor do they maintain an "intended permanent" possession.
You could also legally loan them the CD to listen too and as long as they do not make a copy of the CD for themselves they are not guilty of theft either.
Because the material is released/disseminated with conditions. For music, one of those conditions is no copying without prior permission. Even if the copier isn't the one who entered into the implied contract with the owner, the possession of the material via methods prohibited under contractual use make it stolen property.
THe nature of copyright is such that use hinges on acceptance of the conditions, regardless of how far removed the user is from the parties to the contract.
Are you really trying to argue that pirating music from a friend who legally obtained it is okay? It sounds an awful lot like that and I just want to be sure.
Technically yes. But that's a different situation than buying a cd and putting it online for anybody and their brother to copy it for free. One is not even close to being enforceable, the other is.
I'm not interested in enforceable or technicalities. I'm discussing right and wrong.
Is it theft or isn't it?
Yes. I don't do it, and I wouldn't advocate it.
You are missing the point it is not about "listening to the music". It is about "possession of intellectual property" and distribution there off.I don't understand. If they are listening to the music without paying for it, how is it not theft? I can make them a copy, they listen to it once, and they throw it away. Or I can loan them mine, they listen to it once, and give it back. The end result is the same, they have listened to the music without paying for it. How can you differentiate them ethically?