You know Revere's Riders is holding a basic pistol class on November 12th in Crawfordsville. It might be wise for the local LEOs to take advantage of their LEO discount to let ATM, 308JAKE and company teach them some basic marksmanship skills before REAL bank robbers find out banks in Crawfordsville are ripe for the picking!
You should apply for the job so you can be there to save the day.
Oh, does it now?
Thanks for yet another post full of "who gives a ****" but this one has an icing of "you're full of ****" on top. Good job.
You should volunteer your time to go show them how its done then. Apparently they need a hero.
Regardless, to get offended by the implication that police tend to fire multiple shots in a situation and miss most of them, when that is exactly what the data shows, is a bit counter-productive. That doesn't mean they aren't well trained and it certainly doesn't mean your average keyboard warrior with a CCW would do anywhere near as well (in fact, I would image that for a CCW holder, when engaging in an armed confrontation, the tendency would be to keep shooting until either the threat is down or the gun is empty... something that seems to be borne out by the videos I've seen of civilians in those situations).
You are a bit contentious for a minor bipedal species. Maybe you should give up trolling for something more productive.
Well of course not. Where did I say that we would shoot someone who's not a threat??
Armed Ski masked people run out of stores all the time with no ill intent to hurt us or the people we are with...
You are a bit contentious for a minor bipedal species. Maybe you should give up trolling for something more productive.
Anyone know what movie was being filmed? Wonder if they caught the event on film, it would make on heck of a scene, no acting real reactions.
Apparently some members of INGO need to form up a training company and become millionaires showing LE how it's done. Considering the apparently vast amount of experience shooting their handguns during life and death situations and their ability to maintain the same accuracy that they do during slow fire at 10 yards I don't see how some won't become filthy stinkin rich overnight.
I guess it would be a real shame to have perceptions skewed by experience and reality. I suppose that might make for a pretty boring forum. Feel free to lead the way in detailing your personal expertise and experience and I'll start writing up the proposal to transfer LE firearms training over the some of the members here.
I'd be happy to, have any specific questions? What would you like to know about? How crappy handgun bullets are at stopping people? The physiological phenomena which usually occur when the brain recognizes that death is likely?
I'll admit to getting testy about this stuff. It's basically the equivalent of my criticizing a Forumula 1 driver for crashing his car in a race when I've been able to drive to and from work for the past 20 years without so much as curbing my wheels.
I'm not the least but offended by reality. I'm well aware of it, have studied it and have spent 10 years working to improve the performance of officers involved in these situations. Having been there myself I also have an understanding of the reality of these situations.
What the statistics don't show is that officer involved shootings "typically result in a fusillade that empties entire magazines". What offends is people who assume that since they can shoot with zero pressure, zero adrenaline and no danger involved believe they can tout their "expertise", particularly when they aren't willing to put any skin in the game themselves. It's fun and easy to sit around and daydream about being the hero, it's something entirely different to step into the arena.
I'm all for reasonable discussions about the realities of these situations.
You are a bit contentious for a minor bipedal species. Maybe you should give up trolling for something more productive.
It doesn't take a hero to figure out that if you shout at a person, they will instinctively turn toward you.
If you shoot at them for that, it doesn't really matter what they were holding, what they could have been holding, or even what you shouted at them, you just need to say you were in fear for your life because they were turning toward you in a threatening manner after you shouted at them.
It works on cops, too. Shout at them and they'll turn toward you just the same.