well the poor grammer thing is because mainly i cant type very well, and i didnt do this to just sell or buy guns or anything else, why would i sit here and put 50 posts up just for that, i just have many guns that im interestd in and just want opinions from people that own or have owned the guns, if i wanted to just sell stuff i would do somethin so much easier and less time consuming, i joined this because i love learning about guns, its a huge part of my life, ive been shooting since i can remember and i have killed a coyote with my bow, shotgun, 30-06, and 17 hmr. but i started the thread because i want a gun just for coyote and varmint, and when i said i process my own deer its because i do, ive takin one deer to a processor it was the first deer i ever killed and at that time i didnt know how to do it until my grandpa taught me and ive done my own ever since, i was just suggesting that idea to that guy, to me its cheaper and faster, and i was curious about the slug gun because ive heard rumors of the h and r being able to shoot out to 200 yards, i said i can shoot a paper plate at 125-150 yards with my mossy is because i can, i practice that distance a lot due to the fact i hunt on a lot of farm ground and may have a long distance shot, i asked about the 44 and 357 because i wanted to know which is better and if id be better off getting one of those instead of buyin a new slug gun,