Kinda like the full meal deal. Conditions that occur along with a primary condition. Obesity, with sides of heart disease, and diabetes. At least that’s how I unnerstan it?Yup. Google here I come.
AMEN! People think they can eat and live badly because the doctor will give them that miracle drug and cure their problem and they'll get better. Same thing weve done with welfare. We've encouraged poor people (mostly lazy people) who cant afford kids to breed like rabbits, because not only do we pay for everything up to and including the birth, but also feeding their spawn and hell even give them cash too.
So stupid.
The cycle continues.
Kinda like the full meal deal. Conditions that occur along with a primary condition. Obesity, with sides of heart disease, and diabetes. At least that’s how I unnerstan it?
And in other news... Grain of salt because I am not familiar with this source, but did we know this?
21 million Chinese died of coronavirus – US intelligence officials intercept datahttps://web.archive.org/web/20200406190917/https://n5ti.com/health/1233/
I heard that info before and it makes some sense. However, as far as I can tell it doesn't discount the number of people that would have died without the Wuhan coronavirus.
Only appropriate that I follow up a qwerty post.
Skipped everything until this page. I know we were having an interesting discussion last Friday, perhaps the conversation will return that direction.
Until then, some unfrozen caveman numbers.
- Yesterday was a good day, death wise - lowest in about a week. Which is a bit of a problem, actually. I noticed a pattern: the reports of deaths on Sunday were among the lowest. That goes back a few weeks. So, I suspect that it is more about how many staff are working, reporting deaths, than actual deaths-on-Sunday.
- The average death/day since 3/31 is about 1,450. The trailing 5 day average is ~1,850. But, the good part of that is that it is still pretty stable there.
- Dealing with percentages - the average daily percentage increase in total deaths has been below its trendline since about 4/2. That's another indicator that we're not in exponential growth mode. The percentage increase day-over-day has also been below its trendline for a few days, and that trendline continues to angle downward.
- The troubling mortality rate continues to increase. Just a shade under 4%. I'll explain another angle as to why that's troubling for me. Let's assume the mortality rate is actually much lower. Let's say 2%. And let's round the deaths down to 22,000 COVID-related. That means that there are/have been approximately 1.1 Million people actually infected. Heck, let's discount the deaths by ~10% down to 20,000. That's a million infected. And we've only found about half of them. Now, some percentage of them have recovered with no or only mild symptoms. But, for awhile - and perhaps still - others were/are infected by them. Sure, that's helping to contribute to herd immunity, and is a great argument in favor of antibody testing to examine what might really be the infection rate, but it still means hundreds of thousands of carriers out there.
Happy Easter Monday everyone.
Was that the "people who say 'Wuhan Virus' are racists" conversation? Or was that yesterday?
Oh my. Sounds like things got salty.
No - I'm avoiding those conversations, because wrapped up in all the very important layers of what's happening, there are some irrelevant layers. That's one of them. Frankly, the number of dead people in China is also one.
No, I was referencing the mortality rate issue.
QUOTE=hoosierdoc;8260459]well it's not a hoax. but certainly an over reaction and full of bad moves
So how do we reconcile the liberal classifications of death due to CV? Based on Birk’s comments late last week, whether she meant to or not, it certainly smells like they’re now trying to pad the numbers to avoid another downward “adjustment”.
I’ve also noticed that for even a 4% mortality rate, the # recovered hasn’t started to spike yet. I can only assume part of that is the recovery times are extended and will lag the death rates by a considerable length of time...not to mention, do we have a definition of “recovered”?