Communist Artwork All Over NBC Headquarters

[raider600]

Cool

 

[rambone]

You guys are right. Christianity is equivalent to Communism, and Jesus Christ is equivalent to Stalin.

 

[slackerisme]

Bottom left monkey holding babies hand....Darwin wins.

 

[joker7037]

The hammer and sickle separatly do not represent communism. It is those two separate images together and how they are arranged that is the "logo" for communism. The two individuals standing too either side of door does not represent communism. If you look at everything this way you could see communism, racism, and hatred everywhere. Sometimes it just is what it is, no hidden agenda.

 

[rambone]

The writing is on the wall, literally.

Maybe a little history lesson is needed. The Rockefeller family is renowned for their statist leanings. They have been funding communist regimes and "progressive" organizations for literally 100 years. They had a hand in creating the Federal Reserve and the control of the American money supply. The list goes on. They are one of the most powerful names in NYC and the country.

The Rockefeller Syndicate

So why does everyone defend the Rockefellers? I know my country is in trouble when it is so awash with progressives that even the ****ing Hammer & Sickle is no longer taboo.

Yeah, the artist was just showing his appreciation for serfs who pound nails and cut wheat. No symbolism at all. The country is in fine shape. I want government to give me more handouts and raise taxes on evil land owners. I see no danger in what is happening at all. I love the Federal Reserve. My congressmen have my best interests in mind.

 

[4sarge]

The writing is on the wall, literally.

Maybe a little history lesson is needed. The Rockefeller family is renowned for their statist leanings. They have been funding communist regimes and "progressive" organizations for literally 100 years. They had a hand in creating the Federal Reserve and the control of the American money supply. The list goes on. They are one of the most powerful names in NYC and the country.

The Rockefeller Syndicate

So why does everyone defend the Rockefellers? I know my country is in trouble when it is so awash with progressives that even the ****ing Hammer & Sickle is no longer taboo.

Yeah, the artist was just showing his appreciation for serfs who pound nails and cut wheat. No symbolism at all. The country is in fine shape. I want government to give me more handouts and raise taxes on evil land owners. I see no danger in what is happening at all. I love the Federal Reserve. My congressmen have my best interests in mind.

Unfortunately, you got it correct

 

[CombatVet]

I was born and raised to hate everything Communism. As a small child I used to call people Commies as a negative remark instead of saying dork or something to that effect. I still do it today. Where most people say "That's so gay" I say "That's so Communist". I do have and wear shirts with the Hammer and Sickle. I wear them to remember our adversaries. When I was a kid I felt sad when the Soviet's fell, because we would never ever truly have another enemy like Soviet Russia. I'm still kind of sad about it honestly.

 

[rambone]

I was born and raised to hate everything Communism. As a small child I used to call people Commies as a negative remark instead of saying dork or something to that effect. I still do it today.

You are from a generation taught kids what socialism is, learned the Constitution, recited the Pledge of Allegiance, appreciated and fought for your rights. Things have degraded quite a bit from then, as now people won't call a spade a spade to save their lives.

When I was a kid I felt sad when the Soviet's fell, because we would never ever truly have another enemy like Soviet Russia. I'm still kind of sad about it honestly.

I think we are more at risk now than we ever were during the Cold War. Because today's generation has been brought up to mock the Cold War, feel sorry for communists, deny that communism exists, apologize for America's actions, make every excuse in the book for blatant communists, push the progressive movement forward, advocate for larger government, and mock anyone who presents a case against any of the above.

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[CombatVet]

When did they stop saying the Pledge of Allegiance in schools? What kind of Commie crap is that?

Speaking of schools. When my daughter started school this year we had to buy certain school supplies because the students were sharing everything. I was like oh ok, some kids can't afford school supplies sure. Sharing with her neighbors is a good idea. No, she doesn't have school supplies at all. It's all shared communally. I totally understand some kids parents can't afford school supplies, it can be expensive, but I know for a FACT that people donate school supplies for that very reason. I guess it's one more way to indoctrinate Communism to our kids. It really sucks. Communism is awesome on paper, but beyond that it's a big s#!t sandwich. It's funny after reading some of these threads about how they're introducing it to Americans so that they accept it. I guess I'm gonna have to find an island to move to and declare it the country of CombatVet haha.

 

[CarmelHP]

Has anyone noticed, except for Beck, Lenin standing to the right of the central figure, and Marx 2nd from the right edge of the painting? They're not communist either, I presume.

 

[OrangeCrate]

LOL

Glenn Beck is just a typical ratings whore, who will say pretty much anything to get attention.

 

[Skoty]

You are from a generation taught kids what socialism is, learned the Constitution, recited the Pledge of Allegiance, appreciated and fought for your rights. Things have degraded quite a bit from then, as now people won't call a spade a spade to save their lives.

Um, the Pledge of Allegiance is still recited to this day in schools, kids not even old enough to buy alcohol are dying everyday overseas, if they haven't died most of them have been on a 2 to 4 more tours back to the sandbox. To say that they have degraded is an insult to me and many my age. Everyone that is overseas is all volunteer, no draft, volunteer. The only difference between my generation and the older generations, is that we question old traditions that aren't on the same level as modern ways. We debated saying "under God" during the Pledge of Allegiance due to the fact that not all of us have one God or any God for the matter.

The reason we don't care about communism anymore is because we have studied it so strongly in high school to realize that it is a great form of government on paper but not in real life. We know that communism just doesn't work in the real world. Yet people still say that a democracy works too, which Americans swear by it yet we let lobbyist groups run our house, senate and president.

The generation I am apart of, is the generation that realized hiding under a desk during a nuclear attack is a joke.

 

[rambone]

Has anyone noticed, except for Beck, Lenin standing to the right of the central figure, and Marx 2nd from the right edge of the painting? They're not communist either, I presume.

Yes, Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin are there plain as day. If we are going to paint historical figures why not include Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Ben Franklin, etc? Why not honor some American heroes? I can't wait to hear the excuse for why the only recognizable figures painted on the wall are communists.

Um, the Pledge of Allegiance is still recited to this day in schools,

Not everywhere. And the Left is diligently working to get it out of schools completely. For now, they have settled on giving kids a "Miranda" warning that they don't have to participate if they don't want to, every time the Pledge is recited.

Pledge of Confusion? Schools Wrestle With Flag Policy in Classroom

kids not even old enough to buy alcohol are dying everyday overseas, if they haven't died most of them have been on a 2 to 4 more tours back to the sandbox. To say that they have degraded is an insult to me and many my age. Everyone that is overseas is all volunteer, no draft, volunteer.

This has not, and never will have anything to do with soldiers or the military. The military is not responsible for teaching kids about the Constitution and socialism. Government-run Public Schools are the ones that hold that responsibility. And today's graduates are walking out of school without a clue.

The only difference between my generation and the older generations, is that we question old traditions that aren't on the same level as modern ways. We debated saying "under God" during the Pledge of Allegiance due to the fact that not all of us have one God or any God for the matter.

That must be why the Constitution is rarely adhered to, because it mentions "endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights." Clearly this language is offensive. That must be why many of our sensitive Public Schools give such a weak emphasis on learning the outdated/racist/theocratic document.

The reason we don't care about communism anymore is because we have studied it so strongly in high school to realize that it is a great form of government on paper but not in real life. We know that communism just doesn't work in the real world. Yet people still say that a democracy works too, which Americans swear by it yet we let lobbyist groups run our house, senate and president.

They made you study it extensively, and the conclusion is that "it is a great form of government on paper?" We are in deep s**t if that is what they are teaching you. Communism isn't great on paper, in real life, in outer space, on TV, in China, in Russia, in the past, present, or future, or in The Communist Manifesto. And it is especially not-great when you study its death-toll.

Communism obliterates human rights for "equality." There is nothing "great" about "the abolition of private property," one of the 10 Pillars of Communism. There is nothing great about any of it. The Government dictates all aspects of their lives. No thanks. Not even on paper do I give communism the title of "great form of government."

And America is a Republic, not a Democracy. You'd know that if you recite the Pledge.

Watch this video. "The American Form of Government." A valuable lesson in the very basic differences between the different forms of Government and ours.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...nt/43145-the_american_form_of_government.html

The generation I am apart of, is the generation that realized hiding under a desk during a nuclear attack is a joke.

I'm from the same generation as you Skoty, one year older. I am ashamed of most people my age. We are from the "Me" generation. We are from the "Yes We Can" generation. We are from the generation that expects our elected officials will reward them with welfare programs and socialism. We are from the generation that doesn't understand that we do not have the "right" to anything that has to be paid for by other people (like health care).

JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." Now the brainwashed sheeple expect handouts in return for voting for Obama.

We are from the generation that would rather Pledge their Servitude to Obama than recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kAw4OTlA0"]YouTube - Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher's I Pledge Video[/ame]

 

[Skoty]

Not everywhere. And the Left is diligently working to get it out of schools completely. For now, they have settled on giving kids a "Miranda" warning that they don't have to participate if they don't want to, every time the Pledge is recited.

Isn't our right to recite the pledge or not? Isn't it our right to burn the flag? Isn't it our right for freedom of speech, thought, religion? I think it is, does it make you less of a "patriot" if you wish to not partake in the pledge? No. Does it make you less of a "patriot" to burn the flag of our country? No. Does it make you less of a patriot to stand up for your own beliefs? No. If anything it makes you a stronger person to stand your ground on what you stand for because you have the right to do as you please.

This has not, and never will have anything to do with soldiers or the military. The military is not responsible for teaching kids about the Constitution and socialism. Government-run Public Schools are the ones that hold that responsibility. And today's graduates are walking out of school without a clue.

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You are from a generation taught kids what socialism is, learned the Constitution, recited the Pledge of Allegiance, appreciated and fought for your rights. Things have degraded quite a bit from then, as now people won't call a spade a spade to save their lives.

Schools DO NOT hold the responsibility to make sure that you remember everything you are taught. Everyone is taught about the Constitution in school. No matter how much a teacher tries to teach their students, it is up to the student on whether or not they learn the subject at hand. Schools are there to give you a well rounded education so you can go out and know how to read, write, add, subtract etc. It is there do give you a basic knowledge of life in all aspects. Being a college student for too long now, even students going for their Masters only learn/remember what is needed to keep their GPA up. So it is not the responsibility of the school. Their sole responsibility is to make available the resources to learn and to help PROMOTE expansion of knowledge. It is up to you on whether or not you keep the knowledge or forget it.

You said "fought for your rights" well, I believe men and woman going overseas to sacrifice their life, is a damn good example of "fighting for your rights".

They made you study it extensively, and the conclusion is that "it is a great form of government on paper?" We are in deep s**t if that is what they are teaching you. Communism isn't great on paper, in real life, in outer space, on TV, in China, in Russia, in the past, present, or future, or in The Communist Manifesto. And it is especially not-great when you study its death-toll.

Communism obliterates human rights for "equality." There is nothing "great" about "the abolition of private property," one of the 10 Pillars of Communism. There is nothing great about any of it. The Government dictates all aspects of their lives. No thanks. Not even on paper do I give communism the title of "great form of government."

And America is a Republic, not a Democracy. You'd know that if you recite the Pledge.

I don't think you understand what my point was. Communism on paper is a good government in the eyes of the government wanting to accept it. This isn't about good for the people, it is good for them, the ones in power. Communism is the perfect form of government if you were the one to take over a country, you get all the say and control of everything.

Abolition of private property? You REALLY believe that you own the property you are on? HAH! You paid for a piece of paper to state that you are paying for the spot of dirt so John Doe can't come over and take it. But you pay Uncle Sam every year for this dirt, in which, if Uncle Sam wants to take your land, he will. You can say you will fight to the death, they won't care, they have more time and money than you ever will. So, in all reality, we just rent the land.

Watch this video. "The American Form of Government." A valuable lesson in the very basic differences between the different forms of Government and ours.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...nt/43145-the_american_form_of_government.html

This country might have been written, or destined or designed to be a republic, but can you really truly say that it is? Do you deep down, feel that we control the government? Warrant less house search and seizures, warrant less phone taps, warrant less arrest up to a lifetime without a jury. I'm Mr. George Bush, I am going to do as I please, whether the house or senate agree even if it is illegal. Don't tell me that we control them HAH!

I'm from the same generation as you Skoty, one year older. I am ashamed of most people my age. We are from the "Me" generation. We are from the "Yes We Can" generation. We are from the generation that expects our elected officials will reward them with welfare programs and socialism. We are from the generation that doesn't understand that we do not have the "right" to anything that has to be paid for by other people (like health care).

JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." Now the brainwashed sheeple expect handouts in return for voting for Obama.

We are from the generation that would rather Pledge their Servitude to Obama than recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

YouTube - Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher's I Pledge Video

It might not be a "right" given to us by the government, but it is OUR PERSONAL RIGHT as a human being, that shares one planet to make a better city, town, country, world. If we do not better ourselves and care for others as humans, we are destined to fail as a creature. With arrogance such as that, we will make ourselves extinct without warfare. If anyone studies nature, animals that work in groups to help others, survive longer. You should always care about yourself "me" first, but as a human, the only intelligent species to ever step foot on this planet, we all know if we don't help our neighbor, we fail. If you believe in God, Mohammad, Allah, Buddha, whoever, or nothing. If we do not help out our own species, we fail. We don't get a second chance, there is no re-do, there is no rewind. We get ONE shot at this and if we fail, we fail.

I see all these people hating socialism, yet, we tend to forget how much socialism is already around us that well, we all use. Grants for college, funding for schools, interstates and highways, funding for airports, anything taxed, is socialism. Whether you want us to have a new airport, or stadium or highway, you pay for it anyways. There is nothing you can do about it. If your kid goes to any school besides a private school, that school has received "socialized" funding from everyone in the district. So we are already helping the needy out already, which in turn is to BETTER the human race.

The pledge to Obama, is to show that they are there to stand for the better of the human race and to better their neighborhood and the world. To throw all the hatred/racism/politics and all that questionable opinions aside and act as just an animal to better lives for all.

Wouldn't you want your children to have a better life than yours? Clean air to breathe, clean water, better health care, better foods. Instead of eating medicines made by companies because this Capitalist country is so stuck on fixing everything with a pill instead of just getting dirty and working hard to make this a better place. The cure for AIDS, Cancer, Diabetes etc. Instead of just throwing a pill at it to make the symptoms go away, lets just fix it to begin with. Stop it at the source instead of after it's already broken. Kinda like routine maintenance on your vehicle, fix it before it breaks.

I see nothing wrong with trying to make this a better place for all. If the value of life were to increase, then it is a good thing. The problem with this country is that we don't get time to realize that life is truly beautiful. All we have is one shot, that's it. We screw this up, might as well start working on a "I'm sorry" talk to your kids in the future because people are too stubborn and selfish right now to help others out.

Our actions today will affect the generation after us.

 

[Joe Williams]

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The generation I am apart of, is the generation that realized hiding under a desk during a nuclear attack is a joke.

The only reason it was a joke to your generation is because you never had to live with the daily reality that climbing under your desk might actually be the last thing you would ever do.

 

[rambone]

Isn't our right to recite the pledge or not? Isn't it our right to burn the flag? Isn't it our right for freedom of speech, thought, religion? I think it is, does it make you less of a "patriot" if you wish to not partake in the pledge? No. Does it make you less of a "patriot" to burn the flag of our country? No. Does it make you less of a patriot to stand up for your own beliefs? No. If anything it makes you a stronger person to stand your ground on what you stand for because you have the right to do as you please.

But of course. We all can zip our lips anytime we please. We can sit through the Pledge of Allegiance and face the wall instead of the flag. But if you think we are stronger people and a stronger society because we show a general disdain for our founding principles, documents, and traditions, I would have to disagree. I was pointing out the difference between the two generations.

I don't think you understand what my point was. Communism on paper is a good government in the eyes of the government wanting to accept it. This isn't about good for the people, it is good for them, the ones in power. Communism is the perfect form of government if you were the one to take over a country, you get all the say and control of everything.

Yes, I do know, the Government is what benefits from Communism. The oligarchs rule over masses of serfs. I will accept that you understand the dangers and implications of communism, and why folks like myself seek to stop it.

Abolition of private property? You REALLY believe that you own the property you are on? HAH! You paid for a piece of paper to state that you are paying for the spot of dirt so John Doe can't come over and take it. But you pay Uncle Sam every year for this dirt, in which, if Uncle Sam wants to take your land, he will. You can say you will fight to the death, they won't care, they have more time and money than you ever will. So, in all reality, we just rent the land.

I agree completely. Realize that the country has not always had "property tax" and "federal income tax" and dozens of other taxes. In the past 100 years, several different progressive presidents have sent us leaping towards socialism/communism, including Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, etc. The whole concept of a "progressive tax bracket" is a communist principle as well. None of this implies that I want more socialism. I want these things returned to how they were supposed to be.

This country might have been written, or destined or designed to be a republic, but can you really truly say that it is? Do you deep down, feel that we control the government? Warrant less house search and seizures, warrant less phone taps, warrant less arrest up to a lifetime without a jury. I'm Mr. George Bush, I am going to do as I please, whether the house or senate agree even if it is illegal. Don't tell me that we control them HAH!

Yes, America was intended to be a republic, and progressives have, time after time, overstepped the bounds laid out in the Constitution. Many presidents have provided the means for the deterioration of this republic. GWB did too.

I see all these people hating socialism, yet, we tend to forget how much socialism is already around us that well, we all use. Grants for college, funding for schools, interstates and highways, funding for airports, anything taxed, is socialism. Whether you want us to have a new airport, or stadium or highway, you pay for it anyways. There is nothing you can do about it. If your kid goes to any school besides a private school, that school has received "socialized" funding from everyone in the district. So we are already helping the needy out already, which in turn is to BETTER the human race.

Some people forget how many lousy socialist programs we already have, but I am reminded of the wonders of socialism, every time I look at my paycheck and a huge chunk of it is gone. It was squandered on welfare, public schools, benefits for illegal immigrants. Yes, thats where my money went! Stimulating pet projects for congressmen. Ah yes. Flying our leader around the world so he can take his wife on a date. Thank you taxes. Yes we can!

The pledge to Obama, is to show that they are there to stand for the better of the human race and to better their neighborhood and the world. To throw all the hatred/racism/politics and all that questionable opinions aside and act as just an animal to better lives for all.

Creepy. When we broke our relationship with King George III of England, we as Americans decided we would never pledge to another king. We instead Pledge Allegiance to our flag and our republic. Never a man. Never ever. The military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution, not serve the president. The president is a public servant, which means we pay him, and he works for us.

Wouldn't you want your children to have a better life than yours? Clean air to breathe, clean water, better health care, better foods. Instead of eating medicines made by companies because this Capitalist country is so stuck on fixing everything with a pill instead of just getting dirty and working hard to make this a better place. The cure for AIDS, Cancer, Diabetes etc. Instead of just throwing a pill at it to make the symptoms go away, lets just fix it to begin with. Stop it at the source instead of after it's already broken. Kinda like routine maintenance on your vehicle, fix it before it breaks.

I see nothing wrong with trying to make this a better place for all. If the value of life were to increase, then it is a good thing. The problem with this country is that we don't get time to realize that life is truly beautiful. All we have is one shot, that's it. We screw this up, might as well start working on a "I'm sorry" talk to your kids in the future because people are too stubborn and selfish right now to help others out.

If cures for AIDS, cancer, diabetes were out there, we are more likely to find them in a society which will reward the discoverer (i.e. a free market society). If you are advocating socialism, thinking we will then cure every disease and have clean air, water, food, and medicine, you are dreaming of the utopia that the communists promised.

Our actions today will affect the generation after us.

That's what I'm afraid of. I think about it every day.

 

[CombatVet]

The military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution, not serve the president.

Uh, yes they do. At least they did in 2000. The national guard swore to the same affect, but minus president and added governor.

 

[rambone]

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Uh, yes they do. At least they did in 2000. The national guard swore to the same affect, but minus president and added governor.

Let me address that. They acknowledge that their orders come from the president, but have a conditional statement that the Constitution trumps illegal orders. "All enemies foreign and domestic" tells me that the military is not supposed to blindly do anything any man asks, if it violates the constitution. The military oath acknowledges that there is a hierarchy of officers, all of them subject to the rule of law. Call me crazy, but I thought there was a difference from the military oath and saying, "I pledge to be a servant to Barack Obama."

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

 

[redneckmedic]

YouTube - Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher's I Pledge Video

I pledge to sell my obnoxious car and buy a hybrid.

 

[dburkhead]

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Uh, yes they do. At least they did in 2000. The national guard swore to the same affect, but minus president and added governor.

I think you are thinking of this phrase:

"and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice."

Note that it is a conditional phrase. One does not swear to obey either the President or officers blindly but "according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice." This is where that whole "unlawful order" concept comes into play and I submit that an unconstitutional order is, almost by definition, unlawful.

And the officer's oath doesn't even have that much:

"I (insert name), having been appointed a (insert rank) in the U.S. Army under the conditions indicated in this document, do accept such appointment and do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter, so help me God."