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  • Sigblaster

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    This is why I'm done.
    Every
    Damn
    Time
    It was "Give us this, and we'll stop".
    And EVERY
    DAMN
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    it didn't do what they wanted, so..
    THEY CAME BACK FOR MORE.

    EVERY
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    1934​


    The first piece of national gun control legislation was passed on June 26, 1934. The National Firearms Act (NFA) — part of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s “New Deal for Crime“— was meant to curtail “gangland crimes of that era such as the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre.





    The NFA imposed a tax on the manufacturing, selling, and transporting of firearms listed in the law, among them short-barrel shotguns and rifles, machine guns, firearm mufflers and silencers. Due to constitutional flaws, the NFA was modified several times. The $200 tax, which was high for the era, was put in place to curtail the transfer of these weapons.


    1938​


    The Federal Firearms Act (FFA) of 1938 required gun manufacturers, importers, and dealers to obtain a federal firearms license. It also defined a group of people, including convicted felons, who could not purchase guns, and mandated that gun sellers keep customer records. The FFA was repealed in 1968 by the Gun Control Act (GCA), though many of its provisions were reenacted by the GCA.


    1939​


    In 1939 the U.S. Supreme Court heard the case United States v. Miller, ruling that through the National Firearms Act of 1934, Congress could regulate the interstate selling of a short barrel shotgun. The court stated that there was no evidence that a sawed off shotgun “has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia,” and thus “we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.”


    1968​


    Following the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Attorney General and U.S. Senator Robert F. Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., President Lyndon B. Johnson pushed for the passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968. The GCA repealed and replaced the FFA, updated Title II of the NFA to fix constitutional issues, added language about “destructive devices” (such as bombs, mines and grenades) and expanded the definition of “machine gun.”




    Overall the bill banned importing guns that have “no sporting purpose,” imposed age restrictions for the purchase of handguns (gun owners had to be 21), prohibited felons, the mentally ill, and others from purchasing guns, required that all manufactured or imported guns have a serial number, and according to the ATF, imposed “stricter licensing and regulation on the firearms industry.”


    1986​


    In 1986 the Firearm Owners Protection Act was passed by Congress. The law mainly enacted protections for gun owners — prohibiting a national registry of dealer records, limiting ATF inspections to once per year (unless there are multiple infractions), softening what is defined as “engaging in the business” of selling firearms, and allowing licensed dealers to sell firearms at “gun shows” in their state. It also loosened regulations on the sale and transfer of ammunition.


    The bill also codified some gun control measures, including expanding the GCA to prohibit civilian ownership or transfer of machine guns made after May 19, 1986, and redefining “silencer” to include parts intended to make silencers.


    1993​


    The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 is named after White House press secretary James Brady, who was permanently disabled from an injury suffered during an attempt to assassinate President Ronald Reagan. (Brady died in 2014). It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton. The law, which amends the GCA, requires that background checks be completed before a gun is purchased from a licensed dealer, manufacturer or importer. It established the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which is maintained by the FBI.


    1994​


    Tucked into the sweeping and controversial Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, signed by President Clinton in 1994, is the subsection titled Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act. This is known as the assault weapons ban — a temporary prohibition in effect from September of 1994 to September of 2004. Multiple attempts to renew the ban have failed.


    The provisions of the bill outlawed the ability to “manufacture, transfer, or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon,” unless it was “lawfully possessed under Federal law on the date of the enactment of this subsection.” Nineteen military-style or “copy-cat” assault weapons—including AR-15s, TEC-9s, MAC-10s, etc.—could not be manufactured or sold. It also banned “certain high-capacity ammunition magazines of more than ten rounds,” according to a U.S. Department of Justice Fact Sheet.




    2003​


    The Tiahrt Amendment, proposed by Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.), prohibited the ATF from publicly releasing data showing where criminals purchased their firearms and stipulated that only law enforcement officers or prosecutors could access such information.


    “The law effectively shields retailers from lawsuits, academic study and public scrutiny,” The Washington Post wrote in 2010. “It also keeps the spotlight off the relationship between rogue gun dealers and the black market in firearms.”


    There have been efforts to repeal this amendment.




    It did not however nullify other gun control provisions. “The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms,” stated the ruling.
    What some people don't realize is that every single one of those laws would have failed to make it through Congress without Republican votes.
     

    DadSmith

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    The only common sense gun laws I know of.

    1. Always treat the gun as loaded.
    2. Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
    3. Always keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
    4. Always keep the gun unloaded until you are ready to use it.
    5. Never point the gun at anything you don't intend to destroy.
    6. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
    7. Learn the mechanical and handling characteristics of the gun you are using.
    8. Always use proper Ammunition.
    9. Be sure the barrel is clear of obstructions before loading and shooting.
    10. If your gun fails to fire when the trigger is pulled, hold your shooting position for several seconds; then with the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, carefully unload the gun.
    11. Don't rely on the gun's safety to keep it from firing.
    12. Be aware of your surroundings when handling guns so you don't trip or lose your balance and accidentally point and/or fire the gun at anyone or anything.
     

    Sigblaster

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    The only common sense gun laws I know of.

    1. Always treat the gun as loaded.
    2. Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
    3. Always keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
    4. Always keep the gun unloaded until you are ready to use it.
    5. Never point the gun at anything you don't intend to destroy.
    6. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
    7. Learn the mechanical and handling characteristics of the gun you are using.
    8. Always use proper Ammunition.
    9. Be sure the barrel is clear of obstructions before loading and shooting.
    10. If your gun fails to fire when the trigger is pulled, hold your shooting position for several seconds; then with the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, carefully unload the gun.
    11. Don't rely on the gun's safety to keep it from firing.
    12. Be aware of your surroundings when handling guns so you don't trip or lose your balance and accidentally point and/or fire the gun at anyone or anything.
    Good points, but there are others that are actual common sense, and not the screech of "common sense" that comes from panphobics.

    You should not be able to carry any weapon into the secure area of a place of incarceration, like a jail or prison. However, they should be required to provide a secure storage area, and maybe even a clearing bin at the reception area, so you can securely store your legally-carried weapon until your departure. Something like an airport locker. Secure your weapon, pull the key out, and retrieve it when you leave.

    When I say weapon here, I don't mean just guns. Obviously, you should secure knives, chemical sprays, brass knuckles, throwing stars, trained attack monkeys and such outside of the secure areas.

    The same should apply to courtrooms.

    Also, at NO time, EVER, should you allow a coder to carry a screwdriver in any area where a computer is present.
     

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    I guess they use the term “common sense” to describe such things, because most don’t have common sense and won’t discern for them selves, and when you ain’t got it you’ll take what ever is handed down to you at their word. Thats why we are in the shape we are in.
     

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    It's hard to find leadership that believes in gun rights, many will pay lip service to it for votes.

    I think it's been this way since civilization began so it's less about the weapons, and more about the fear of not having complete power.

    I've seen that fear in the business world where weapons aren't even involved, leadership gets scared of talented people moving up in an organization and either reassigns or fires them.
     

    IndyDave1776

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    Other than the gun handling "laws" mentioned above, the only common sense gun law I can think of is taking them from criminals and not honest law abiding citizens.
    I see your point, but should dangerous people who can't be allowed arms be roaming free?
     

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    It's hard to find leadership that believes in gun rights, many will pay lip service to it for votes.

    I think it's been this way since civilization began so it's less about the weapons, and more about the fear of not having complete power.

    I've seen that fear in the business world where weapons aren't even involved, leadership gets scared of talented people moving up in an organization and either reassigns or fires them.
    You mean like, promoting the idiotic troublemakers and running the good help off?
     

    IndyDave1776

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    You mean like, promoting the idiotic troublemakers and running the good help off?
    Its bad enough when you get run off for being conscientious. It is exponentially worse when 20 years later the ****er is still invading your life to create problems just for fun
     

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    Sure, why not? The most they can do without arms is kick or bite :whistle:

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    What some people don't realize is that every single one of those laws would have failed to make it through Congress without Republican votes.
    All the more reason to aid and abet the Trumpification of the Republican party. Get rid of the people who are squishy on individual rights and responsibilities, or who would spitefully vote to keep Obamacare because Trump was mean to them
     

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    I guess they use the term “common sense” to describe such things, because most don’t have common sense and won’t discern for them selves, and when you ain’t got it you’ll take what ever is handed down to you at their word. Thats why we are in the shape we are in.
    It's marketing. 'Common sense' polls better than 'undesirable and unconstitutional'
     

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