I don't see seceding or not seceding from an unwanted government as a fundamental human right.
I'll throw this in here
I didn't watch it. Does it show Jefferson Davis, his entire cabinet and every ****ing slave holder lined up in front of Union artillery loaded with grape and chain?
I did not realize that typing mf as a single word bypasses the filter...
And minority slave owners.Shooting every ****ing slave holder would have required shooting a bunch of folks in the union....so no, it does not.
And minority slave owners.
Huh. I did not realize that either. It blocks mother****er, but not mother****ing.I didn't watch it. Does it show Jefferson Davis, his entire cabinet and every ****ing slave holder lined up in front of Union artillery loaded with grape and chain?
I did not realize that typing mf as a single word bypasses the filter...
I wonder.I suspect Jefferson would disagree.
More's the pity.But anyway, it's supposedly a reenactment. They didn't line them up back then, so they couldn't "reenact" that.
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DiLorenzo is known for "tweaking" information to suit his biases and ignoring information that doesn't fit his agenda.I’m no Lincoln fan but there’s no road in Springfield named old aristocracy row. There is a neighborhood named old aristocracy hill. The Old Aristocracy Hill Neighborhood Association was founded in the late 1990s.
Always makes me wonder what information a speaker has ”tweaked” that I don’t know
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I think it’s that some people want to ignore certain facts that tend to disprove the thing their ideology tells them to believe. There are plenty of facts that put the virtue of Lincoln in question. I don’t think he deserved the veneration he gets. Too many verifiable facts exist that debunks the “war of aggression” narrative.No one is going to be convinced either way.
People believe what they want based on the way they interpret the facts.
No one is going to be convinced either way.
People believe what they want based on the way they interpret the facts.
He was kinda a tyrant. The circumstances were dire. Suspending habeas corpus was merely on the list of many tyrannical actions not justified by the circumstances. It looks to me like it was to punish political enemies as much as to get them out of the way. He could easily be Joe Biden’s favorite Republican just for that reason.Sorry, but I disagree.
I certainly agree that there are people in this thread who appear to believe what they want regardless of the facts. However, there are at least some of us that study, evaluate ALL of the information available, and then reconsider our opinions.
I once bought into the whole "Lost Cause" narrative hook, line, and sinker, but it could not stand up to honest evaluation of the facts. Secession was entirely about saving slavery, end of story.
Lincoln was faced with tough choices. I don't agree with all of them, but that doesn't mean I have to ignore reality and buy into the tyrant nonsense. He was hardly running a dictatorship; he was often responding to public pressure and advice from others. He tended to be the moderate voice, not the extreme one.