Well so much for the Scientology and Satanist threads taking some of the heat off the religious threads.....Dang it I tried lol....
Well so much for the Scientology and Satanist threads taking some of the heat off the religious threads.....Dang it I tried lol....
Yeah... we're slacking off. There's a few on my short list.
I said "mostly"...while Judaism still clings to ritual genital mutilation, at least Christians haven't burned a "witch" alive in almost two years!
I have no doubt many on INGO would be so convinced.I think I could be convinced to burn a witch given the limitations of information circulating at that stage in history.
I think I could be convinced to burn a witch given the limitations of information circulating at that stage in history.
Food for thought: if their really were witches, or beings with magical powers used to torment humans with the power of the devil himself, would it be justifiable to blame people for burning them? What we know now limits our understanding of the time, maybe.
I think I could be convinced to burn a witch given the limitations of information circulating at that stage in history.
Many here are under the impression that the terrorists of late are not the hard core by the book Muslims. They are misguided. My stance remains that the Quran displays a violent Muhammad's and preaches a violent message to non believers. In my mind, no matter how you follow it, if you claim Islam and the Quran you cannot be trusted around non believers
So my question to you is:
For those who can be peaceful Muslims because of how they" interpret" the Quran: they have a religion that SOUNDS like it commands it followers to violence regarding non believers
On the other hand, ISIS, the new age term x radical Muslim ' believes they are commanded to violence on non believers.
Assuming they are both using the same book (most likely NOT in ancient Arabic) what's the difference between their religions?
1 that COMMANDS violence OR
2 that just SOUNDS that way
Have you ever considered that Islam simply might be a religion that hasn't grown up? For all the rhetoric cited in the Koran as proof of the "evil" of Muslims, one can find similar "proof" in the Christian Bibles. There's really not a quantum leap in the notions. The question you should be asking isn't if the religion is evil, but why do some of the followers continue to do evil things, and hasn't pushed out it's loons like Christianity generally has. That's where your discussion should begin.
In an effort to bring some specificity, can we at least try to paint with a finer brush?
Sunni appear to have overall figured out how to integrate and participate in western secular societies.
The Salafist portion of Sunni clearly have not.
The Shia mostly have.
If we cannot speak with some specificity, then there will continue to be the opportunity to speak past each other, with countervailing examples aplenty.
I think you're missing the point.... unless you hold that this specific scripture can't be misinterpreted and used to justify killing non-Christians.
...The Bible says kill non-Christians if you twist it!"
Yes, Jesus said it as a parable, but the parable relates to the judgement of God. It is clear there is an equivalency between the nobleman and God.
IKR?
I can understand the issue with Judaism - there's no teaching of Christ that explain the law & it's reasoning and how he fulfills it to change the dynamic. What I've never come to grasp is how Jews can take the law, which should still be in force for them, and choose to ignore parts or all of it.
People sucked more then. It is from natural causes. Some have progressed morally. Some haven't. Some try to prevent that progression. Some try to lead it.
Ultimately, inside, they are fulfilling their basic nature. That's not a defense of their behavior, btw. Behavior which commits violence on innocent people cannot be defended.
...Frankly, I'm happy Kut (anyone, for that matter) posted scripture. It's the only way to reduce any unneeded confusion...
Well so much for the Scientology and Satanist threads taking some of the heat off the religious threads.....Dang it I tried lol....
Well, I'll try to make it simple as much as I can...