alabasterjar
Sharpshooter
A few reps from me as well. I hope this goes to his "quality posts" count so he can shop the classics...Sounds like he's out of shts go give, and I'm out of Rep...will someone please get him for me?
A few reps from me as well. I hope this goes to his "quality posts" count so he can shop the classics...Sounds like he's out of shts go give, and I'm out of Rep...will someone please get him for me?
Since you asked, I'm clean shaven and I always make sure my mask is nice and snug when I'm indoors in public. All of the numbers I've seen point to at least a 30% reduction for the typical cloth masks most people are wearing these days (higher if you put a filter in), but the percentage doesn't matter. If there's a 10% chance that my wearing a mask won't infect you or anyone else with COVID I'd still wear a mask.Those numbers go both ways, smarty.
10% reduction in breathing the particles out vs a 95% reduction in breathing the particles out.
You also need to shave so that the mask can seal against your face. If you don't, then it's a virtue cloth, and you're just asserting that you pretend to care about not infecting other people, as opposed to take actions to actually not spread the virus.
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The particles we breathe stay in the air long after we're 6 feet away from the next person. If you walk through Home Depot with no mask and you're infected you could potentially infect everyone in the store even if you kept your distance the entire time. Please don't read this as in insult to you or anyone else in this thread, but to me the only word for that type of behavior is selfish.Better yet, since I'm not wearing a mask and you think there's a chance I might be infected, you could always stay away from me.
Since you asked, I'm clean shaven and I always make sure my mask is nice and snug when I'm indoors in public. All of the numbers I've seen point to at least a 30% reduction for the typical cloth masks most people are wearing these days (higher if you put a filter in), but the percentage doesn't matter. If there's a 10% chance that my wearing a mask won't infect you or anyone else with COVID I'd still wear a mask.
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The particles we breathe stay in the air long after we're 6 feet away from the next person. If you walk through Home Depot with no mask and you're infected you could potentially infect everyone in the store even if you kept your distance the entire time. Please don't read this as in insult to you or anyone else in this thread, but to me the only word for that type of behavior is selfish.
That being said, I don't agree with mask mandates. I have two babies at home and I just want to see the infection rate drop low enough where it's safe to take them out in public again. I'm putting my faith in my fellow Americans and hoping we can all put the politics aside and do what's in everyone's best interest for once.
Since you asked, I'm clean shaven and I always make sure my mask is nice and snug when I'm indoors in public. All of the numbers I've seen point to at least a 30% reduction for the typical cloth masks most people are wearing these days (higher if you put a filter in), but the percentage doesn't matter. If there's a 10% chance that my wearing a mask won't infect you or anyone else with COVID I'd still wear a mask.
Have we seen any "data" on up to date physical transmission of the virus? Transmission of the virus to surfaces from maybe touching masks, then touching other items? Like for example, how the flu is spread?
I know the pro mask crowd want to keep talking that this isn't possible, but do we know for sure? Could this be the reason for the spike in reported cases?
Since you asked, I'm clean shaven and I always make sure my mask is nice and snug when I'm indoors in public. All of the numbers I've seen point to at least a 30% reduction for the typical cloth masks most people are wearing these days (higher if you put a filter in), but the percentage doesn't matter. If there's a 10% chance that my wearing a mask won't infect you or anyone else with COVID I'd still wear a mask.
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The particles we breathe stay in the air long after we're 6 feet away from the next person. If you walk through Home Depot with no mask and you're infected you could potentially infect everyone in the store even if you kept your distance the entire time. Please don't read this as in insult to you or anyone else in this thread, but to me the only word for that type of behavior is selfish.
That being said, I don't agree with mask mandates. I have two babies at home and I just want to see the infection rate drop low enough where it's safe to take them out in public again. I'm putting my faith in my fellow Americans and hoping we can all put the politics aside and do what's in everyone's best interest for once.
> In before overweight people with high blood pressure repeating pants-pissing analogies <
I'm kinda thinking that demographic fits both sides equally on INGO. As I've said all along, this is about belief. Belief drives actions. So people should stop assigning moral virtues to actions. Everyone believing something is exercising their moralality. It's not about morality. If you believe masks work you'll believe that not wearing one is immoral on some level. If you think masks don't work, making them manditory is immoral. What's needed is ditching the moral rhetoric, like, "it's curious" and "yer takin' muh rights" and dealing with the issue of belief and lack of trust.
The different belifs must be reconciled before there could possibly be anything resembling a consensus. And before that can happen there has to be mutual trust. Transparency in the CDC would be a good start. Honesty in the media () would be a good followup.
There were people who opposed wearing seatbelts when the state made them mandatory. There were people who cut the seatbelts out of their cars when manufacturers started putting them in.
Just sayin'...
One slight tweak to your hypothesis, based on my observations:
If you believe masks work you’ll believe that not wearing one is immoral (and the people that don’t are immoral) on some level. If you think masks don’t work, you don’t wear them, think making them mandatory is immoral, but you don’t care if other people do or not.
No objections. I didn't state it in so many words but I never had any thoughts that this was not the case.
There were people who opposed wearing seatbelts when the state made them mandatory. There were people who cut the seatbelts out of their cars when manufacturers started putting them in.
Just sayin'...
I get where you're coming from but I think that's what's making everything trickier right now. Everyone feels safe until they aren't. Sounds like you're in a place with few or no infections (most of us I'm guessing) so that's definitely a blessing. The problem is people still travel from all over the country and all it's takes is one infected person to start an outbreak.If that were even close to the truth we would all be sick at home right now. I have been in many stores before Hoggnuts overstepped his authority and maybe 10% of the customers were masked. If you assumption is true we would all be sick. No one save for a small handful at breakfast anyplace we eat even now are masked.
I am not making this up just to call you out or start and argument. We can find info to say either side of this is correct. Hell man Fauci the mini zar is touting New Yorks handling of this. They literally set people up to die for crap sake.
I still call BS
Wear-em if you feel the need.
If you are sick or weak stay your butt at home. I will pack you in some grocery's.
The percentage doesn't matter as long as it's above zero. It's just a numbers game.Why would you chose to wear a 10-30% effective piece of safety equipment, when a 95% effective piece of safety equipment is only $4?
This is why I remain baffled by the mask crowd. If you're going to push the narrative, at least use the right thing.