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    "We ought to ban hunting"
    - Cass Sunstein, in a 2007 speech at Harvard University


    "[A]lmost all gun control legislation is constitutionally fine. And if the Court is right, then fundamentalism does not justify the view that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to bear arms. "
    - Cass Sunstein, writing in his book, "Radicals in Robes"



    "Animals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives …"
    - 2004 book Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions


    "[Humans’] willingness to subject animals to unjustified suffering will be seen … as a form of unconscionable barbarity… morally akin to slavery and the mass extermination of human beings."
    - Cass Sunstein, in a 2007 speech at Harvard University



    "[T]here should be extensive regulation of the use of animals in entertainment, in scientific experiments, and in agriculture."
    - Cass Sunstein, “The Rights of Animals: A Very Short Primer,”
    August 2002.


    "A system of limitless individual choices, with respect to communications, is not necessarily
    in the interest of citizenship and
    self-government."
    -Cass Sunstein, arguing for a Fairness Doctrine for the
    Internet in his book, Republic.com 2.0 (page 137).

    First Amendment
    In his book Democracy and the Problem of Free Speech Sunstein says there is a need to reformulate First Amendment law. He thinks that the current formulation, based on Justice Holmes' conception of free speech as a marketplace “disserves the aspirations of those who wrote America’s founding document.”[12] The purpose of this reformulation would be to “reinvigorate processes of democratic deliberation, by ensuring greater attention to public issues and greater diversity of views.”[13] He is concerned by the present “situation in which like-minded people speak or listen mostly to one another,”[14] and thinks that in “light of astonishing economic and technological changes, we must doubt whether, as interpreted, the constitutional guarantee of free speech is adequately serving democratic goals.”[15] He proposes a “New Deal for speech [that] would draw on Justice Brandeis' insistence on the role of free speech in promoting political deliberation and citizenship.”[13]

    Animal rights
    Sunstein has also written often in favor of animal rights. “Every reasonable person believes in animal rights,” he says.[16] He also says that human “willingness to subject animals to unjustified suffering will be seen … as a form of unconscionable barbarity… morally akin to slavery and the mass extermination of human beings,”[17] and that we might "conclude that certain practices cannot be defended and should not be allowed to continue, if, in practice, mere regulation will inevitably be insufficient—and if, in practice, mere regulation will ensure that the level of animal suffering will remain very high."[16] Specifically he thinks that, “we ought to ban hunting.”[18] He also thinks that “we could even grant animals a right to bring suit”[19] and that it is possible that “that before long, Congress will grant standing to animals to protect their own rights and interests.”[20] This all stems from his claim that "animals, species as such, and perhaps even natural objects warrant respect for their own sake, and quite apart from their interactions with human beings."[21]

    Democrats push Cass Sunstein nomination - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com

    In a 63-35 vote Wednesday evening, the Senate voted to end the debate on Sunstein’s nomination, moving Sunstein one step closer to a full vote in the Senate.


    Democrats succeeded Wednesday in pushing forward the nomination of Cass Sunstein, the controversial Harvard University law professor who has been tapped by President Obama to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs.

    In a 63-35 vote Wednesday evening, the Senate voted to end the debate on Sunstein’s nomination, moving Sunstein one step closer to a full vote in the Senate.

    Sunstein has been tapped for one of the more wonky jobs in the White House – reviewing the effectiveness of federal regulations. But his nomination has caught fire with conservatives, led by Fox News host Glenn Beck, who have highlighted some of his more liberal positions on animal rights and end of life care. Sunstein has been described by Republicans as one of the many Obama “czars,” but because he requires Senate confirmation, he doesn’t really fit the mold of a “czar” who wield enormous powers with little oversight.

    Conservatives are particularly incensed over statements Sunstein has made advocating for greater regulation of hunting rights.

    While Republicans will have little ability to stop Sunstein’s nomination, conservatives are feeling energized after their successful push for the resignation of White House green jobs adviser Van Jones, who stepped down from his post this weekend after it was revealed that he had dabbled with 9/11 conspiracy groups and had made inflammatory statements about Republicans.

    The heated debate over Sunstein began on the Senate floor just hours before President Obama sets foot in the Capitol to deliver a nationally televised address on health care to Congress.

    On his Twitter account Tuesday, Beck blasted Democrats for “rushing” Sunstein’s vote through the Senate.

    “Dems likely to vote on Sunstein's nomination TOMORROW; they are afraid of WatchDogs; every day increases their risk of losing this vote,” Beck wrote.


    from glenn beck Why Obama's Speech Doesn't Matter - Glenn Beck - FOXNews.com

    Everyone is talking about health care today and the president's speech tonight.

    I don't even need to watch the speech.

    Why? Because here's The One Thing: While everyone else is talking about the health care bill and the games of health care reform, let me sum up the speech this way: It doesn't matter.


    Wednesday's health care speech doesn't matter because this administration is going off a blueprint they haven't revealed yet. And while we don't know what their grand plan is, it feels more and more like a plan designed by the Teamsters, the seemingly criminal elements that run ACORN or Hugo Chavez's regime.

    And until we know where the people in Washington stand on the Constitution, nothing should pass.

    The tools to build their ultimate new America will be buried in these bills — tools that you won't even see because you don't know what tools they need. So instead of talking about health care, let me tell you something that will absolutely change your life.


    I have said to you over and over again: Never watch what they are doing; watch the other hand.

    As everyone was watching Van Jones, we learned the vote to confirm Cass Sunstein as regulatory "czar" is coming down on Wednesday. Sunstein is the author of "Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions," in which he wrote: "Animals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives…."

    Yes, your dog should have an attorney.

    Sunstein also had this to say about the Second Amendment:

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    CASS SUNSTEIN: "My coming view is that the individual right to bear arms reflects the success of an extremely aggressive and resourceful social movement and has much less to do with good standard legal arguments than [it] appears."


    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    Here is what the regulatory "czar" does: He regulates laws — past, present and future. He tweaks them.

    What could that mean to you? Well, consider that Sunstein is a man who doesn't believe we should be eating meat; a man who believes that animals should be provided attorney's in courts of law; a man that believes that everyone must be an organ donor; a man who believes that maybe you shouldn't be able to remove rats from your home, if it causes them any pain.

    (I mean, I was as fond of Michael Jackson's song "Ben" as the next 8-year-old kid, but do you really want a police officer telling Ben, who's shown up in your home, "You have the right to be here. If they try to remove you from the home, you have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, Ben, one will be provided for you"?)

    Cass Sunstein doesn't have to pass a law to ban meat, he just works with the environmental agencies to make sure feed is tougher to obtain, grazing lands are more protected and it's much more difficult to ship. So ranchers can't graze their cattle.

    When environmentalists saved the smelt, all they did was reduce water going to those grazing lands and suddenly, farmers were going out of business.

    Sunstein can make it harder to use pesticides, change regulations on grains — which makes them more expensive and your steak goes from $10 to $25.

    So don't expect laws banning meat, just tweaks to the regulations that make it more expensive — "nudging" you to stop eating meat.

    How will Sunstein "nudge" you on guns or on the Internet or free speech? You won't say bad things about the president or global warming because that would be wildly irresponsible — we can't have flat-Earthers running around or people who disagree too much with the president.

    People in Washington don't get it, you know it.

    For the first time in my life, I have seen miracles happen. This country is actually being led, in part, by you. We the people are leading the blind in Washington. But some will continue to play politics and call you stupid.

    They will tell you that Cass Sunstein is a good guy, just an academic. But there are a lot of academics that have done a lot of damage and are responsible for a lot of people perishing.

    A lot of these attacks on me claim that I'm just screaming "communist!" That's not what I'm alleging in the case of Sunstein. He's not a communist or a Marxist. He's not crazy — well, besides the rat thing. He's not a revolutionary — he hasn't started a STORM for kids group. He's a serious intellectual.

    So why is Glenn Beck going after him?

    Because I'm one person who has been consistent. I'm against gigantic government. I believe that people make the best decisions. I don't need to be "nudged." I don't need the National Endowment for the Arts to make propaganda to push an agenda. I don't need thugs coming to my office or approaching me on the street to nudge me.

    I can make the decisions for my own life. And if the government doesn't like it, they can get the heck off my land.

    A battle is being waged. You may be losing a lot of personal sovereignty today. Watch the price of energy. Watch the price of the food. You will not be "nudged;" you will be shoved. But the highest price you'll pay isn't the extra pennies on a soda tax. It will be in the loss of your personal freedom.

    This Saturday is 9/12 — the day I think should be a National Day of Service.

    There are going to be 9/12 events across the country. Go to D.C. Go to your town squares. Get your neighbors to go to your home, local bar, restaurant.

    Take a stand. Enough is enough.

    Thanks Yeti

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    Sunstein has been tapped for one of the more wonky jobs in the White House – reviewing the effectiveness of federal regulations.
    What exactly does that mean? So you would think gun control laws would back off due to the fact that crime has risen since their advent.
     

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    WHAT HAPPENED we were ****** (see your bad word & hope you don't get slapped by the MODS for it since we are no PG rated only) since I6BO was crowned.. I mean took office. Just means I have to do a lot more praying.
     

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    WHAT HAPPENED we were ****** (see your bad word & hope you don't get slapped by the MODS for it since we are no PG rated only) since I6BO was crowned.. I mean took office. Just means I have to do a lot more praying.

    Yea your right but im trying to spread my information that im obtaining :patriot:
     

    haldir

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    The forum rules do not allow me to adequately express my true thoughts on the subject of Dick Lugar.
     

    Bill of Rights

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    I just sent the following to both Bayh and Lugar.

    Dear Sen. Bayh,
    I write to you today to express in the strongest terms my opposition to Mr. Sunstein's nomination to any position of power, let alone one in which he could write the regulations and determine without oversight the effect of the laws made by the Congress. Mr. Sunstein has embraced some views that go beyond extreme into the realm of lunacy, and as such, I request that you vote to reject his nomination for the position.
    I would appreciate a reply indicating your position without equivocation.
    Thank you.


    Post your letters, folks!

    Blessings,
    Bill
     

    JcJ

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    This is more or less what Luger and Beyh are getting from me..

    Senator XXX

    I want to know why you think Mr. Sustein is worthy of any position in our government? I am hoping that maybe you just haven’t taken the time to do any research on this individual because if you had you surely couldn’t have voted for him with a clear conscience. Is someone a lot higher in our government promising you something if you vote for confirmation of his friends and the socialist aspirations of his regime?

    You have proven to me once again that you simply don't care what your constituents want and what is in their best interests. I suggest that this is an appropriate time to start thinking about what you plan on doing after the next election. You have made it crystal clear to me and most everyone else in the State of Indiana that you no longer have any interest in serving 'We the people'. Yes, in case you had forgotten, you work for us, not the other way around.

    I will be waiting anxiously for your reply but I realize that letters like this (I bet you get plenty) never make it past your aids or at best they will send me some cheesy catch-all form letter that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
     

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    So is Dick Lugar going the way of Arlen Specter, when do you suppose he's going to announce he's moving the Democrat party?
    Maybe he's just getting to old, or he's been in Washington to long. Either way, his seat would be better filled by someone like the feisty ready to spar congressman Mike Pence.
     

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    Senator Lugar,

    I heard tonight on the news that you voted for Cass Sunstein. I am speaking not as a Republican, not as a Democrat, and not as an Independent but, as an American who for one is scared for the future of this country. It is dis-concerning that you can call your self a Republican when you stand up for, or didn't stand up against someone who disagrees with the 2nd Amendment. From an American, like myself, to a single individual who didn't stand up for what he said he believes in, like you, I am disgraced to call you a Representative of my State and of my Country. It is people like you who seem to throw away what people sacrifice for everyday. I will never vote for you again and and my family and all of my friends plus mine and theirs acquaintances will hear about your decision to not stand up for the Constitution of the United States of America. You took an oath to defend it so, like what every American must do, stand up for what you believe in. If you truly believe that Cass Sunstein is beneficial to this country then switch parties. This man will not only try to destroy the 2nd Amendment but, the agricultural industry. Indiana is a big agricultural state and by not standing up against this man you have told those farmers who supported you that you would rather think of your own political career then the lives and futures of Hoosiers, and Americans. I sincerely hope you lose your spot in the Senate this next election and be replaced by someone who stands and represents the Constitution.

    Thank you.


    ...I know there are some grammatical errors but it was right after I found out.
     

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    my email to bayh and lugar

    After having viewed the recent vote count for Mr. Sunstein I have only one question for you. What are you thinking?? How could you and the others even considered this idiot for this particular office. I myself am for animal rights but when a person really thinks that your dog should be able to sue you in court that is too much. As for putting a ban on hunting. How do you think the first people here in America fended for themselves. Then to tell people who have hunted since they were kids that hunting is wrong? All I have to say is thank you for your service to this country. Hopefully come election time you will be replaced as you have officially lost my vote as well as many others.
     

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    Dick Lugar voted yes, say it isn't so. Sarcasam off.

    Dick Lugar before he Dick,s you.:xmad:
     

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    So is Dick Lugar going the way of Arlen Specter, when do you suppose he's going to announce he's moving the Democrat party?
    Maybe he's just getting to old, or he's been in Washington to long. Either way, his seat would be better filled by someone like the feisty ready to spar congressman Mike Pence.

    Following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Congressman Pence was appointed to the Judiciary Committee. In his time on the Judiciary Committee, Pence participated in drafting the Patriot Act and legislation creating the Department of Homeland Security. Then in 2005 Mike Pence voted to make the Patriot Act permanent before it sunseted. Thanks to Mike Pence the Patriot Act is now permanent.
     
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    Lugar got a not-so-polite, but no dirty words, letter from me tonight directly after the vote was cast.

    I actually did ask him why he is voting with the Dems on more occasions and if he was going to switch political parties, a la Specter. I also asked him why, if he wasn't going to switch, why not?

    He has told me in the past that he is more of a centrist but with his voting record in the last year or two he is not holding to the center, he is well into Leftist territory.
     

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    Following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Congressman Pence was appointed to the Judiciary Committee. In his time on the Judiciary Committee, Pence participated in drafting the Patriot Act and legislation creating the Department of Homeland Security. Then in 2005 Mike Pence voted to make the Patriot Act permanent before it sunseted. Thanks to Mike Pence the Patriot Act is now permanent.

    At the time, the Patriot Act had good intentions and still does. Given the gravity of what we were dealing we had to do something to ease the restrictions for intel gathering. However, with anything that was intended for good, someone will abuse it and make it bad.
     
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