Black man shot in Kenosha, riots starting all over again...

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  • worddoer

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    It seems there is video evidence that the first person to be shot during what I guess the press is now calling the "Rittenhouse Incident" was chasing Mr. Rittenhouse with a gun. It is not great resolution, but it sounds / looks as if Rittenhouse fires in the air (warning shot I guess) as he is being chased. After that, the man chasing Mr. Rittenhouse may have fired or someone nearby fired to which Mr. Rittenhouse seems to have returned fire probably assuming he was the one being shot at.

    Edited to add: The resolution is terrible, so it's hard for me to tell. I am relaying what is in the article. This is INGO, I am sure it will be analyzed and debated.

    Article where I found this: https://www.theblaze.com/news/video-first-kenosha-victim

    Twitter video: https://t.co/gS8ezsaAdu


     
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    Kutnupe14

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    You’d think the other militia members would have been extra protective of that kid.

    On a side note. If someone hired them to protect businesses, it had to be an insurance company. During this pandemic, I imagine a lot of business owners are hoping their businesses burn down.
     

    dusty88

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    You’d think the other militia members would have been extra protective of that kid.

    On a side note. If someone hired them to protect businesses, it had to be an insurance company. During this pandemic, I imagine a lot of business owners are hoping their businesses burn down.

    Business insurance often excludes "terrorism" which is what might be used to avoid a claim for riots and looting.
     

    Tombs

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    Yeah. He's going to get convicted of (relatively) minor fire arms charges. Open carry as a minor in WI and maybe unlawful transport of some sort (not sure but figure there's *some* statute.)

    There's no way that he gets convicted of murder.

    I'm guessing that the the defense shows a big picture of a damned AR and says something like "I'm going to argue, and prove, that this firearm saves my clients life that night."


    I wonder if there's any argument to be made for the fact that law, in general, was not being enforced in the area at all?
    That people were left to fend for themselves by any means they could muster because the government had failed them.
     

    ditcherman

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    The kid is considered a fool because what he was “defending” wasn’t his to defend. Don’t get me wrong, the terrorists deserve all the hell they raise. But it needs to be raised by people who live there.

    There’s a difference between unable to defend and unwilling. And morally I can not endanger my family or myself for people unwilling to put some skin of their own in the game.

    I did my time in uniform. From here on out, I’m only endangering myself for those who love and depend on me or those who need help defending themselves. But doing all the bleeding while they watch from a distance?

    Nope.
    First, it’s pure speculation on my part to say that he might have had friends/family/business connections there, that brought him there. The opposite is true as well however, and we can’t know at this point his motivation for being there. Maybe he had that connection.

    Secondly, here’s a copy/paste of something I have thought belonged in this thread before, and I think it’s relevant here...


    [FONT=&amp]First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—[/FONT][FONT=&amp] Because I was not a socialist.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a trade unionist.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&amp]Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&amp]Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


    editing to add, I get the sentiment of letting the liberal cities burn, they won’t be so leftist when they come out of the ashes. I get that, but am thinking closer to home. At some point some people will want to take ownership away from the leftist leaders ginning this whole thing up.[/FONT]
     
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    JTScribe

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    You’d think the other militia members would have been extra protective of that kid.

    On a side note. If someone hired them to protect businesses, it had to be an insurance company. During this pandemic, I imagine a lot of business owners are hoping their businesses burn down.

    If they're covered. And if they can afford the resulting increased premiums.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    If they're covered. And if they can afford the resulting increased premiums.

    Even if they're covered and decide to rebuild, there's a good chance it won't be in their same location because of this kind of crap. So then there will be complaints about food deserts and other nonsense.
     

    injb

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    It seems there is video evidence that the first person to be shot during what I guess the press is now calling the "Rittenhouse Incident" was chasing Mr. Rittenhouse with a gun. It is not great resolution, but it sounds / looks as if Rittenhouse fires in the air (warning shot I guess) as he is being chased. After that, the man chasing Mr. Rittenhouse may have fired or someone nearby fired to which Mr. Rittenhouse seems to have returned fire probably assuming he was the one being shot at.

    Edited to add: The resolution is terrible, so it's hard for me to tell. I am relaying what is in the article. This is INGO, I am sure it will be analyzed and debated.

    Article where I found this: https://www.theblaze.com/news/video-first-kenosha-victim

    Twitter video: https://t.co/gS8ezsaAdu



    I didn't see where the article said that the guy he shot had a gun. It really doesn't look that way in the video, although someone else further back definitely fired a shot.

    But did anyone else see the long poles that the people chasing him were carrying? I've seen that clip several times and never noticed this before. They're hard to spot, but 2 of the people chasing him were carrying very long pole-like objects, around 5-6 feet long. These 2 guys went left when Rittenhouse and the guy he shot went right, as if to close off his escape from the parking lot. When the shots were fired, they run across the street - still with the poles, towards the camera. A few seconds later you hear several metallic "clanging" noises...metal pipes or flag poles that they dropped after the shooting?
     

    Trigger Time

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    People make a big deal about the crossing state lines thing. People in that area regularly cross into one state or another just like they would cross here from indy to Greenwood. He could live close enough where he would still consider that city part of his own community even if he lives in IL.
    Just like in northern Indiana there are several ingo members who work in IL and travel there daily.

    I support this kid. He supported a cause he believed in and when the going got tough he refused to become another dead body spit out by BLM/ANTIFags domestic terrorists
     

    KLB

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    And if you happen to learn that he pointed a gun at protesters, and threatened to shoot someone prior to the altercation occurring? Would you still seek to see him walk free?
    There’s still a great deal we don’t know about concerning how this occurred. From what I’m seeing, people just are assuming, the mob saw a white kid with a gun, and started chasing him. That doesn’t make sense to me. As I stated earlier, there have been plenty of pro-BLM white guys toting guns, and not ended up fleeing for their lives. So what is the difference here? How did they know that kid wasn’t on their “side.” That’s a key piece, that I believe ultimately will weigh heavily on where this case goes.
    We all heard the red shirt guy exclaiming “shoot me,” was he challenging a threat made, or did he just see the gun and make an assumption? For all those who may sympathize with the kid, don’t get too far ahead of yourselves.
    Let's say he was talking :poop:. What difference does that make to a claim of self-defense? He was running away and being pursued, short of having committed some kind of felony, how does that not make it a case of self-defense?
     
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