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    Keith_Indy

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    Since the Food and Drug Administration authorized the first vaccines for COVID-19 in late 2020, the government and much of the media have insisted that the medicines developed in record time are safe and effective. Those who raised questions about them have been routinely dismissed as conspiracy theorists.

    And yet an online database co-administered by the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control has compiled more than 1.3 million reports of vaccine-implicated “adverse events” running the gamut from mild to severe, including 29,000 deaths.
     

    Keith_Indy

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    Nothing says confidence like coercion.


    The calls and text messages are relentless. On the other end are doctors and scientists at the top levels of the NIH, FDA and CDC. They are variously frustrated, exasperated and alarmed about the direction of the agencies to which they have devoted their careers.

    “It's like a horror movie I'm being forced to watch and I can't close my eyes,” one senior FDA official lamented. “People are getting bad advice and we can’t say anything.”

    That particular FDA doctor was referring to two recent developments inside the agency. First, how, with no solid clinical data, the agency authorized Covid vaccines for infants and toddlers, including those who already had Covid. And second, the fact that just months before, the FDA bypassed their external experts to authorize booster shots for young children.
     

    tim87tr

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    Ten Reasons (Excuses) this is not true:

    1. I don't believe VAERS. You put so much faith in one fed govt database VAERS.
    2. Those people already had pre-existing conditions
    3. Not related to the vaccine
    4. Deaths and adverse are being blamed on this vaccine more than others
    5. If you have had four shots, that is one every 5 months or so. Lots of opportunities for you to have just had a Shot when something unrelated happens. The more unhealthy and older you are, probably means you are getting vaxxed more.
    6. mRNA vaccines have more issues than others. Lots of inflammatory issues around them. Way less than actually having severe COVID though.
    7. Let me get this straight. You don't want to find out how many of the cases in VAERS are legitimately due to the vaccine. You just want to claim they are, because of revenge?
    8. Are people reporting fake deaths? Honestly it's possible. One Dr reported that a vaccine turned them into the Hulk, seriously. He did it to show the limitations of the system, they couldn't remove it until he gave them explicit permission to do so.
    9. 90+ year old lady. Honestly getting caught in a draft on her way to or from is about as likely as the vax killing her.
    10. Thank you, thank you doctors. You're the best and we believe everything you tell us!

    So 29,000 deaths and 1.3 mil reports of adverse events. Look around on the board and you can easily compile a top 20 excuse list. All of this is unprecedented. Heads will continue to explode the remainder of this year trying to come to terms with the fallout. Until then a there will be a lot of medical industrialization explaining, incessant political propaganda, fence riding specialists, and "I don't want to know the truth" scared individuals for some quite large numbers.
     
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    DadSmith

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    Ten Reasons (Excuses) this is not true:

    1. I don't believe VAERS. You put so much faith in one fed govt database VAERS.
    2. Those people already had pre-existing conditions
    3. Not related to the vaccine
    4. Deaths and adverse are being blamed on this vaccine more than others
    5. If you have had four shots, that is one every 5 months or so. Lots of opportunities for you to have just had a Shot when something unrelated happens. The more unhealthy and older you are, probably means you are getting vaxxed more.
    6. mRNA vaccines have more issues than others. Lots of inflammatory issues around them. Way less than actually having severe COVID though.
    7. Let me get this straight. You don't want to find out how many of the cases in VAERS are legitimately due to the vaccine. You just want to claim they are, because of revenge?
    8. Are people reporting fake deaths? Honestly it's possible. One Dr reported that a vaccine turned them into the Hulk, seriously. He did it to show the limitations of the system, they couldn't remove it until he gave them explicit permission to do so.
    9. 90+ year old lady. Honestly getting caught in a draft on her way to or from is about as likely as the vax killing her.
    10. Thank you, thank you doctors. You're the best and we believe everything you tell us!

    So 29,000 deaths and 1.3 mil reports of adverse events. Look around on the board and you can easily compile a top 20 excuse list. All of this is unprecedented. Heads will continue to explode the remainder of this year trying to come to terms with the fallout. Until then a there will be a lot of medical industrialization explaining, incessant political propaganda, fence riding specialists, and "I don't want to know the truth" scared individuals for some quite large numbers.
    Glad I didn't get the vaccine. I haven't caught covid since I got it September last year. I've been around people coughing with covid just 2 feet from me (family members) no mask just natural immunity. I've been around at least 6 others with covid and I didn't get it again.

    If they decide to make a covid vaccine from good Ole egg I'll hope in line.
     

    tim87tr

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    Glad I didn't get the vaccine. I haven't caught covid since I got it September last year. I've been around people coughing with covid just 2 feet from me (family members) no mask just natural immunity. I've been around at least 6 others with covid and I didn't get it again.

    If they decide to make a covid vaccine from good Ole egg I'll hope in line.
    At this point I think those awful non-vaxxer conspiracy theorists are taking a victory lap. I'd reposted your Steve Kirsch substack polling results for vaccine injuries and deaths and most are not ready for what appeared to me a decent representative survey. I've followed Kirschs' work, Dr. Malone, Dr.McCullough, Dr. Cole, etc for a very long time.

    A lot of it doesn't matter to people, although we seem to be at a pivot point in this silent infowar. You can see the tide changing quite hard and fast when it finally does with places like the Netherlands, France and Sri Lanka. When a real awakening happens in the United States I hope it is quick as people deserve that sooner than later.
     

    nonobaddog

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    At this point I think those awful non-vaxxer conspiracy theorists are taking a victory lap. I'd reposted your Steve Kirsch substack polling results for vaccine injuries and deaths and most are not ready for what appeared to me a decent representative survey. I've followed Kirschs' work, Dr. Malone, Dr.McCullough, Dr. Cole, etc for a very long time.

    A lot of it doesn't matter to people, although we seem to be at a pivot point in this silent infowar. You can see the tide changing quite hard and fast when it finally does with places like the Netherlands, France and Sri Lanka. When a real awakening happens in the United States I hope it is quick as people deserve that sooner than later.
    I wish I had more faith in a US awakening.
    It seems like the current sham administration doesn’t respond to the people but rather to their own agenda. They control the media which is a powerful tool. I think they are so disconnected and egotistical that they will continue to ignore facts and keep doubling down on their miserable failed policies.
     

    Ingomike

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    I wish I had more faith in a US awakening.
    It seems like the current sham administration doesn’t respond to the people but rather to their own agenda. They control the media which is a powerful tool. I think they are so disconnected and egotistical that they will continue to ignore facts and keep doubling down on their miserable failed policies.
    Hard to overcome the normalcy bias when to think otherwise is sheer terror…
     

    nonobaddog

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    Keith_Indy

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    Yep, one of the bigger things to come out of the last couple of years was just how highly partisan and grossly incompetent the CDC our institutions really is are.

    FIFY

    And people wondered why I started calling the Trump era, the Great Clarifying. He broke them so bad they can’t help but identify their true colors.
     
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