You didn’t listen to him. He pulled the hammer back and it fired by itself. He never pulled the trigger.
You didn’t listen to him. He pulled the hammer back and it fired by itself. He never pulled the trigger.
Oh really... I did not know that. Will have to go read it.Interesting to me that he already did a plea deal.
Joy Behr says the prosecutor is a "big Republican"! I think a long time ago, some gun owners said that there are no such things as "accidental discharges". They say that there are only "negligent discharges"! Anyone who accepts a firearm from another has a responsibility to check it to see if it is loaded, as well as, treat it in a manner that doesn't put anyone else in danger. We also have a responsibility to train those around guns in firearm safety, as well as, a responsibility to keep them out of the hands of irresponsible people. There is no place for loosey goosey gun handling anywhere. Baldwin has never admitted that he pulled the trigger. That is either the huge Hollywood ego at work (I'm always right) or a glaring lack of character (maybe both). I wish he had left the country when he said he would.I get that an entire political party would love to see this guy swing but as gun owners we should hope he does not all for the legal precedence alone. An accidental shooting, which happens dozens a times a day in this country, needs to remain accidental. Even if you hate the guy who held the gun when the accident occurred.
The state it's being tried in is Democrat.
The district attorney is a Democrat.
If you think this is Baldwin facing "just consequences" you're mislead. It's just one more attack on our rights that will be used against innocent gun owners who have a heart breaking accident sometime in their future.
I don’t buy your argument. I for one do not believe in accidental shootings. Someone has to do something wrong for that to occur. I could be the fault of whoever got shot, but someone is at fault (I am hunting on private property with appropriate signage and someone who is trespassing I could not see was behind the deer I just missed). Maybe this would not result in charges but still someone is at fault.I get that an entire political party would love to see this guy swing but as gun owners we should hope he does not all for the legal precedence alone. An accidental shooting, which happens dozens a times a day in this country, needs to remain accidental. Even if you hate the guy who held the gun when the accident occurred.
The state it's being tried in is Democrat.
The district attorney is a Democrat.
If you think this is Baldwin facing "just consequences" you're mislead. It's just one more attack on our rights that will be used against innocent gun owners who have a heart breaking accident sometime in their future.
Various articles (and the prosecutor) said that the FBI lab tested the gun and it would not fire without the trigger being pulled until they broke it. Then it would fire w/o the trigger.If the firearm was a "slip gun," designed for fanning the hammer, it could have fired without pulling the trigger.
If it was defective, it may be neither the full-cock notch nor half-cock notch caught the hammer.
It would require examination of the firearm to determine this.
It is more likely Baldwin had his finger in the trigger guard and was holding the trigger to the rear as he gripped the gun. He may have assumed the trigger would have to "reset" like a semi-auto pistol before it would fire or, more likely, he just didn't think at all. In his mind, holding the trigger to the rear and pulling the trigger are likely two different things.
Apparently that movie production was also a bit loosy-goosey. The prop people made their own dummy rounds by pulling the bullet from live rounds, dumping the powder, and reseating the bullet. But they didnt pull the primers. The gun was loaded with the dummy rounds and used in a scene where the trigger was pulled. No-one noticed the little pop nor noticed that when the gun was unloaded a dummy round was missing its bullet, which was lodged in the barrel. For a later scene gun was reloaded with blank rounds, pointed at Brandon, and BOOM. .44 IIRC. Not really a “fragment” (fragment of the total cartridge I suppose) but a lot of stories use that term. Clever bit of PR on someone’s part.And where the accidental shooting of Brandon Lee was not charged was due to it was a defect of the firearm where debris from a prior scene was dislodged within the bore and it wasn’t an actual bullet that killed him from what I remember and read.
That's the Hillary Clinton defense.I can't believe that no one in this thread (over the last week, at least) has mentioned that the cast / crew were PLINKING ON SET with live rounds WITH the same guns that were to be "prop guns" and that they had co-mingled live and blank rounds. And I seem to recall that they'd had several instances that exposed what a dim-bulb their "armorer" was. She had zero business doing that job.
Those reports were out over a year ago.
I don't categorize this as an accident, but negligence.I get that an entire political party would love to see this guy swing but as gun owners we should hope he does not all for the legal precedence alone. An accidental shooting, which happens dozens a times a day in this country, needs to remain accidental. Even if you hate the guy who held the gun when the accident occurred.
The state it's being tried in is Democrat.
The district attorney is a Democrat.
If you think this is Baldwin facing "just consequences" you're mislead. It's just one more attack on our rights that will be used against innocent gun owners who have a heart breaking accident sometime in their future.
I get that "accidents happen". Problem is, "negligence happens" too. That, IMHO, would seem to be the case here.I get that an entire political party would love to see this guy swing but as gun owners we should hope he does not all for the legal precedence alone. An accidental shooting, which happens dozens a times a day in this country, needs to remain accidental. Even if you hate the guy who held the gun when the accident occurred.
The state it's being tried in is Democrat.
The district attorney is a Democrat.
If you think this is Baldwin facing "just consequences" you're mislead. It's just one more attack on our rights that will be used against innocent gun owners who have a heart breaking accident sometime in their future.
I believe if the hammer is not far enough back to engage the "1/2 cock" notch, it won't have enough power to fire the cartridge. Pulled further back, the "1/2 cock' notch, which is used to hold the hammer back while the cylinder is rotated for loading, will catch the hammer and prevent firing.Can't a partially pulled back hammer slip and fire a colt without pulling the trigger. Still doesn't excuse the above stupid stuff
I believe the Uberti replicas they were using have a floating firing pin that acts kind of like a firing pin block does in a semiauto pistol preventing firing pin contact with the primer unless the trigger is pulled.I believe if the hammer is not far enough back to engage the "1/2 cock" notch, it won't have enough power to fire the cartridge. Pulled further back, the "1/2 cock' notch, which is used to hold the hammer back while the cylinder is rotated for loading, will catch the hammer and prevent firing.