Report to who? As far as I'm aware there's no standardized gathering of this information.
... and then you walked into the room.
Now we will get the info needed in real world scenarios.
Report to who? As far as I'm aware there's no standardized gathering of this information.
Report to who? As far as I'm aware there's no standardized gathering of this information.
You'll have to ask him, as I did not press the minutiae of the point during the lecture. I just remember that when he was discussing statistics cited from police reports, he made a point to say that the distance quoted was the distance where the attack ended, not where it started. I'm sure he'd find a discussion welcome and you can also let me know if I misinterpreted what he said! 'Cause sometimes I'm wrong.
What happens if you actually do get your purse gun out for the 3 x 3 x 3, then on your scan, you discover the second attacker with his Glock x Glock x Glock???
I'm not saying he's wrong, I just don't know who we're talking about as "they" or what type of report is under discussion. I'm not aware of any UCR/NIBRs reporting that includes distances at either the beginning or end of a confrontation. Most police report narratives don't contain the information. Affidavits might if it's relevant to the charge under consideration, but it's often not. Something that's immediately apparent as a good shoot won't have an affidavit. The near contact shot of the robber in the pawn shop, for example. The initial report will not mention it's a near contact shot, there will be no affidavit because the prosecutor came to the scene and declared it a good shoot before the shooter even gave a statement, and the only publicly available info will not contain any reference to distances. Crime Lab will have scale drawings of where things at the scene are, such as shell casings, that be indicative of distances. Autopsy results might include powder stippling, etc. that would be indicative of how close a shot was fired from, depending.
I feel pretty comfortable in saying there's no standardized way to gather the information nationwide, but there could be some system somewhere for certain departments or state specific reporting requirements. So, in short, I'm just not sure what's under discussion because I don't know who's being reported to or how.
Yeah. And what happens when pissed off Libyans realize you sold them a box full of useless pinball machine parts? Screwed there too.
But the vast majority of incidents are 1 on 1, or 1 on 3-ish, where when the shots start firing, the other 2+ **** themselves and do their best impression of Usain Bolt. Seldom do the accessories steel themselves and return fire to protect their buddy who is running the op. Watching video after video, I'm seeing there is no honor among thieves. They all just want to CYA and do their best to un-ass the AO and live to try to attack some other helpless victim. They dont want a fight, they want a victim.
But yes, it CAN happen. So can a terrorist attack where we really need an AR and a LBV full of mags. But we carry for what most likely will happen, not what could possibly happen in a worst case scenario.
That's inconsistent internally. If you really based your actions in terms of what you carry on what will most likely happen, you wouldn't carry a gun because it's most likely you will never need it.
The near contact shot of the robber in the pawn shop, for example. The initial report will not mention it's a near contact shot, there will be no affidavit because the prosecutor came to the scene and declared it a good shoot before the shooter even gave a statement, and the only publicly available info will not contain any reference to distances.
The big question is why do we always guess that the fight will go as we have imagined it?
It's the same OLD story, isn't it? What would you take, if you were invited to a gunfight?...
if invited, an infantry platoon with air and artillery support. Since I’m not likely to be invited 3xcept by some random dude on the internet calling for the Boogaloo, I’ll continue to carry what I do daily. It might seem silly to old guys who like low capacity and big bullets and think no one trains because they haven’t trained in their course(which is as likely outdated as their firearms choices), but it works for me, and has for many thousands of training round.The big question is why do we always guess that the fight will go as we have imagined it?
It's the same OLD story, isn't it? What would you take, if you were invited to a gunfight?...
Was that the one where the employee was "cartoon" sneaking up behind the bad guy before he shot him?
It's the same OLD story, isn't it? What would you take, if you were invited to a gunfight?...
Maybe this should or has been in another thread but I had a question from a student last week that I do not know the statistics. She asked because her purse gun was limited to 5 rounds and wanted to know. What is the average rounds fired by the defender in an actual legal defense action in Indiana? I googled it of course and there many articles on National figures and the data is always cluttered with criminal defenders that spoils the real answer. Any ideas INGO?
For some reason 3 x 3 x 3 comes to mind.
3 shots
Within around 3’
done in under 3 seconds.
If I’m wrong I’m sure somebody will correct me